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From: TomW <gadfly911_at_earthlink.net>
subject: [Paddlewise] "Navigating Bremerton..."
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 18:53:11 -0700
Hi,

	Well?  I did it! [I think/hope<g>]  That area around the bridge I 
mentioned?  Near as I can tell, even at most forceful times [ for April it 
looks like odd numbered weeks] current gets no stiffer than 3.7 x 0.7=2.59 
kts...

	Looks like for someone who can stay upright, it can be a relatively safe 
location all in all...<g>

	Yes I do believe that "safer is better than sorry," and in light of what I 
knew at that earlier time, I believe I still did the right thing.

	GOOD!

		Now, I've got to do some exercising of my out of shape body, ensure I can 
affix the skirt [it has been stretching for now-3 months?] and REMOVE the 
thing one handed.  So, perhaps week after this one coming up?

	For all the responses I got-THANK YOU ALL very much!  While the decision 
to "give it hell one more time" was some determination, the feed back I 
got, the encouragement, really-"gave me more gas in my tank!"

	I have also written the fella who runs the club I joined, and pointed out 
some areas I do not think I can manage by myself-and asked if he might know 
someone willing to "take me under his shoulder" so to speak...  We'll see...<g>

	But how about that?  A place to put in, 10 minutes away, and on the Sound 
for heavens sake?

		Thanks again,
				Tom.. [Bremerton, WA]


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From: ralph diaz <rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] "Navigating Bremerton..."
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 05:42:07 -0700
TomW wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
>         Well?  I did it! [I think/hope<g>]  That area around the bridge I
> mentioned?  Near as I can tell, even at most forceful times [ for April it
> looks like odd numbered weeks] current gets no stiffer than 3.7 x 0.7=2.59
> kts...

I don't know the area you are speaking about but don't be lulled into
any false sense of security from what you read about currents speed in a
table.  Those tables are really averages and samplings and so can be way
off.  Lots of such data is seriously out-of-date. PLUS, winds can wreak
havoc with any such predictions.  With winds you can get more effective
current or worse yet, wind in opposition to current for very steep
seas.  Also wind blowing in from the ocean, depending on where you are,
can bring in more water from the sea (again I don't know your location)
meaning that currents are faster and tides higher under such
circumstances.  So, don't be surprised to find that currents are twice
as strong on any given day or the turn of currents is not on the
schedule of predictions shown in the tables.

Lastly, you mention "bridge." Often water under bridges stack up since
generally bridges are built from points of land sticking out into
whatever body of water they cross (to lesson the distance the bridge has
to span).  Water moving in one direction or another gets squeezed into
those areas and can be quite forceful depending on the size of the area
that the water is coming from such as a large bay.  So be aware of that
too.

I am not saying any of this is necessarily dangerous but it pays to know
such things and to be prepared for major differences in how water may
behave regardless of what tables say and from what you may casually
observe.

ralph diaz
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From: TomW <gadfly911_at_earthlink.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] "Navigating Bremerton..."
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 11:19:20 -0700
Ralph,

         Thank you for your reply...

         The reason that I have been working so hard to read the darn 
chart, and make that arena at least work for me is that it would seem a 
good base to start my evaluation of conditions on.  Without that 
information-judging wind speed/direction, obstacles in the current path, 
etc... would to me, have no..."starting point" even for estimates of 
conditions.

         Your letter does point out the other variables that it's my intent 
to incorporate as I progress and I am grateful for that Ralph.

         With my put-in being only 10 minutes away-it would not be horrible 
to get there, evaluate what I see/hear, and put a trip off until a better 
day.  I still have my 2m ham rig in my truck and have all the NOAA freqs 
available to me, and of course intend to listen before I go.

         It is clear to me however, that Bremerton is not Pt. Defiance 
[where I had my FRIST lesson, with Nigel] and so should turn out to be at 
least a bit, safer for me eh?

         Thanks for your input Ralph,

                 Tom...

>I don't know the area you are speaking about but don't be lulled into
>any false sense of security from what you read about currents speed in a
>table.  Those tables are really averages and samplings and so can be way
>off.  Lots of such data is seriously out-of-date. PLUS, winds can wreak
>havoc with any such predictions.  With winds you can get more effective
>current or worse yet, wind in opposition to current for very steep
>seas.  Also wind blowing in from the ocean, depending on where you are,
>can bring in more water from the sea (again I don't know your location)
>meaning that currents are faster and tides higher under such
>circumstances.  So, don't be surprised to find that currents are twice
>as strong on any given day or the turn of currents is not on the
>schedule of predictions shown in the tables.

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