RE: [Paddlewise] Dry Tops and Bibs vs Dry Suits: Kokotat

Hi Ralph and All,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net
> [mailto:owner-paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net]On Behalf Of ralph diaz
> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 2:44 PM
> To: mnoyes_at_gsinet.net
> Cc: Fred T, CA Kayaker; Paddlewise; kokatat_at_kokatat.com
> Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Dry Tops and Bibs vs Dry Suits: Kokotat
>
>
> That belt is meant for inducing sweating when exercising and supposedly
> helping reduce your tummy size.  I too often thought that one would work
> well  as an ad hoc closure for the bottom of a paddle jacket.  It is
> quite wide as you indicate, very grippy, and might do the job.
>
> However you will not achieve a dry suit in the combination you are
> thinking of.  So if you go that way, you should have a wet suit
> underneath.  The waterproof clothing over it will reduce the amount of
> water getting near you.  A watersports polartec suit (or neoprene) under
> a jacket and bib pants with a belt would be pretty decent in terms of
> coverage...not perfect but certainly a lot better than just a paddle
> jacket, pants and just some outdoor insulation clothing underneath.

I dissagree.  I don't think you will find that you need a wetsuit under this
combination.

Ralph have you tried the bibs and dry-top or tec- tour combo?

>
> On another note, I believe the TecTour top does not have a latex gasket
> at the neck, just the wrists.  I am working from memory, so I could be
> mistaken on this.  If that is the case, you will take on water at the
> neck.  Some of those tops with the word "tour" in them don't close up
> too well at the neck lacking even neoprene or darlexx up there.  So
> check that too.
>
> *********

You are correct, the tec-tour has latex at the wrists but not at the neck.
During a roll with this type of closure I find I get maybe a cup or two of
water in at most.  Definately not enough to make safety an issue.  If you
are swimming and not rolling the neck closure keeps almost all of the water
out assuming you are wearing a pfd.  Either way intrusion at the neck is
minimal.

Have you found that you are getting in more water than this using this
combination?

Cheers,

Rob Cookson

 "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety"
Benjamin Franklin

***************************************************************************
PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not
to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission
Submissions:     paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net
Subscriptions:   paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net
Website:         http://www.paddlewise.net/
***************************************************************************