>saw a paddle gear producer referencing "same-sex Velcro" I've used a product that could be described as same sex velcro. The stuff I used came in a sticky back strip but did not use the hook and loop design. I hesitate to describe it for fear of not being taken seriously here but here goes...it used balls and shafts. The balls are molded to the top of an array of tiny shafts. When two pieces of the stuff are pressed together the balls on one push between and behind the balls on the other making a interlocking bond. Sounds kinky but it works. I don't know if I'd trust it for holding anything important or expensive. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 5/1/00 1:39:50 PM, JCMARTIN43_at_aol.com writes: << I saw a paddle gear producer referencing "same-sex Velcro" the other day in a piece of equipment, but now can't find the reference. >> We've used the hermaphroditic Velcro "One Wrap" for years with very good success in non-marine environs. But I have never heard of this "same sex" hook and loop fastener. I wonder if the union of same would be legal in all 50 states or if this is a "European only" phenomenon. Please keep us abreast, . . . er . . . informed. Jed *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
LedJube_at_aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 5/1/00 1:39:50 PM, JCMARTIN43_at_aol.com writes: > > << I saw a paddle gear producer referencing "same-sex Velcro" the other day > in a piece of equipment, but now can't find the reference. >> > > We've used the hermaphroditic Velcro "One Wrap" for years with very good > success in non-marine environs. But I have never heard of this "same sex" > hook and loop fastener. I wonder if the union of same would be legal in all > 50 states or if this is a "European only" phenomenon. Please keep us abreast, > . . . er . . . informed. > > Jed I also have used the one wrap kind of velcro that has the fuzz on one side and the barbs on the other. It comes in 6 ft lengths from Campmor and also available at marine shops. It does hold well in a marine environment. I use it principally in folding kayaks. Some models do not have positive locking of long pieces to the cross ribs (what I mean by positive locking are either cutouts in the ribs that are sized to allow snapping the long pieces snuggly into them). Or sometimes the positive locking aspect weakens over time and the cutouts in the ribs (or special fittings) no longer hold. The velcro helps hold those long pieces in place while you are inserting frame halves into the skin. I also use the one wrap velcro to hold a flare light to the back of the headband of my headlamp. The flare light sticks up like an Indian brave's feather giving out a 360 light for being seen while night paddling. It holds up well in a marine environment. Actually I have switched recently to a one wrap strap that is meant to hold some fixtures on motorboats. Same sex velcro sounds like a good idea but I wonder if it would hold as well as the barb and fuzz of the traditional velcro marriage. ralph diaz -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralph Diaz . . . Folding Kayaker newsletter PO Box 0754, New York, NY 10024 Tel: 212-724-5069; E-mail: rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com "Where's your sea kayak?"----"It's in the bag." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> -----Original Message----- > From: David Seales [mailto:dseal_at_ntplx.com] > >Sounds kinky but it works. I > don't know if I'd > trust it for holding anything important or expensive. > <Big Grin> I have some of the same stuff at home, but wasn't brave enough to try to describe it! I seems to hold well, but I don't think that it is as flexible as "ordinary" velcro - i.e. it might be best suited towards single plane applications - I certainly couldn't see it working well for sandal straps or other similar multi-plane applications. Dave Seng Juneau, Alaska *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> >saw a paddle gear producer referencing "same-sex Velcro" > > I've used a product that could be described as same sex velcro. The stuff > I used came in a sticky back strip but did not use the hook and loop > design. I hesitate to describe it for fear of not being taken seriously > here but here goes...it used balls and shafts. The balls are molded to the > top of an array of tiny shafts. When two pieces of the stuff are pressed > together the balls on one push between and behind the balls on the other > making a interlocking bond. Sounds kinky but it works. I don't know if I'd > trust it for holding anything important or expensive. In certain situations, "this ball and shaft" arrangement can great holding power. In fact some auto manufacturers use a variation, the "mushroom", to affix plastic body panels. Whatever that's worth. Daniel *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 5/2/00 12:54:15 AM, dtheman_at_u.washington.edu writes: << In certain situations, "this ball and shaft" arrangement can great holding power. In fact some auto manufacturers use a variation, the "mushroom", to affix plastic body panels. >> I believe this is another Velcro product, their industrial version, developed for the automotive industry. It can be very strong. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
This type sounds like what holds my easy-pass(electronic toll collection badge) to the windshield. Seems sensitive to temperature. I swap the badge from car to car, but when it is cold (in winter) I can't get the thing off without first warming up the car. Same goes for putting it in another vehicle. Agree that I wouldn't trust it for anything important. > I've used a product that could be described as same sex velcro. The stuff >I used came in a sticky back strip but did not use the hook and loop >design. I hesitate to describe it for fear of not being taken seriously >here but here goes...it used balls and shafts. The balls are molded to the >top of an array of tiny shafts. When two pieces of the stuff are pressed >together the balls on one push between and behind the balls on the other >making a interlocking bond. Sounds kinky but it works. I don't know if I'd >trust it for holding anything important or expensive. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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