Hi Paddlewisers I am relatively new to paddling sport. I have always been impressed of how eskimo rolls works and looks that easy. Now have taking part in Eskimo roll courses for two seasons in swimming pool and learnt to do it myself by the C to C technique. The last that impresses me still was recently on television. I saw Eskimo roll during forward paddling. I seems that the velocity was not influenced by the roll at all. How is this possible? Regards Tor Dalberg >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net >[SMTP:owner-paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net] >Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 11:51 PM >To: paddlewise-digest_at_lists.intelenet.net >Subject: PaddleWise V1 #1063 > >PaddleWise Friday, April 28 2000 Volume 01 : Number 1063 > > > >Re: [Paddlewise] Dry Suit Questions? >Re: [Paddlewise] Dry Suit Questions? >[Paddlewise] Feathercraft Purchase & Paddle >Re: [Paddlewise] Feathercraft Purchase & Paddle >Re: [Paddlewise] Feathercraft Purchase & Paddle >Re: [Paddlewise] Feathercraft Purchase & Paddle >Re: [Paddlewise] Dry Suit Questions? >Re: [Paddlewise] Feathercraft Purchase & Paddle >[Paddlewise] T Shirts---ORDER NOW!!! >Re:[Paddlewise] deals on dry suits >Re: [Paddlewise] T Shirts---ORDER NOW!!! >Re: [Paddlewise] Dry Suit Questions? >[Paddlewise] new drysuit just arrived/new boat/looking for a good witchdoctor >Re: [Paddlewise] new drysuit just arrived/new boat/looking for a >goodwitchdoctor >[Paddlewise] T-shirt source >RE: [Paddlewise] new drysuit just arrived/new boat/looking for a good >witchdoctor >Re: [Paddlewise] new drysuit just arrived/new boat/looking for a >goodwitchdoctor >Re: [Paddlewise] Feathercraft Purchase & Paddle >Re: [Paddlewise] new drysuit just arrived/new boat/looking for a good >witchdoctor >[Paddlewise] Crabbing > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 22:40:12 -0400 >From: volinjo_at_juno.com >Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Dry Suit Questions? > >Booties are good. They keep your feet warm and dry, and you don't have >to get your feet through latex ankle gaskets. I have latex booties, but >I understand that they now make them incordura, which would be more >durable. I did have to get paddling shoes a size larger to get over the >latex booties with polartec socks underneath. > >Joan > >. I've wondered if I would have a problem with water >> collecting >> around my feet, making them uncomfortable. Any experience out there? >> >> Tom >> York, Maine >> >> >************************************************************************* >** >> PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author >> and not >> to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission >> Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net >> Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net >> Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ >> >************************************************************************* >** > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 19:51:37 PDT >From: "Wendy Ogaki" <wendy_ogaki_at_hotmail.com> >Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Dry Suit Questions? > >I've got the Stolquist goretex drysuit with latex booties. I found my socks >got a little damp but with the fleece socks and neoprene booties were warm >and never a problem. Nice also that you don't have to fiddle with taking >off the latex around your ankles. Love the gortex suit as it kept me warm >even while setting up camp. If I was wearing a wetsuit, I'd be chilled in >minutes. I'll probably try and extend wearing the suit as much as possible >since it's oh, so comfortable -- no neoprene itch either :o) > > >- ----Original Message Follows---- >From: "tompage" <tompage_at_sarahleonard.com> >To: <paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net> >Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Dry Suit Questions? >Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 21:55:55 -0400 > >The Kokatat goretex drysuit with relief zip and cordura reinforcement I got >this past winter is absolutely super. I still get soaked after paddling for >a few hours but there isn't buckets of water in my pant legs like with my >old coated suit. The extra safety is well worth it since I have a family >now but am not about to stop paddling year-round. My only complaint is the >collar sometimes chafes my neck. I want to have booties put on my suit >this summer. I've wondered if I would have a problem with water collecting >around my feet, making them uncomfortable. Any experience out there? > >Tom >York, Maine > > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > >*************************************************************************** >PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not >to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission >Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net >Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net >Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ >*************************************************************************** > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 20:20:32 PDT >From: "Wendy Ogaki" <wendy_ogaki_at_hotmail.com> >Subject: [Paddlewise] Feathercraft Purchase & Paddle > >Well, bought my boat a couple of weeks ago and set it up. Settled on the >Khatsalano S. I was debating between the Khatsalano and the S, but what >made up my mind was the price. I was able to get the S (sewn sealskin >version) for about $2,000 cheaper at Mountain Co-op since they were getting >rid of last year's models to make way for the new welded sealskin kayaks >(they did not have the Khats regular). This was even cheaper than what they >sold them for a few years ago -- this is new and last year's model. > >Very nice boat, like the low deck so you don't bang your knuckles, although >I did enough banging of the knuckles while setting it up. Space didn't seem >to be a problem, although I couldn't fit my -30 sleeping bag in -- I put >that in someone else's kayak while I took the tent. Normally, wouldn't use >that bag but decided I wanted to be cozy and comfortable in the -2-0/30-32 >degree temperature at night and I knew storage wasn't a problem. Seems like >I could pretty well pack my kitchen sink with me. I had my large end bags >blown up all the way. I wasn't quite sure how much you can deflate them to >stuff more gear in. >What would be reasonable, halfway blown up if you wanted to stuff in more >gear? > >Boat is very, very stable. Forgot at first to blow up the sponsons and the >boat dragged but still very stable. Boat seems to track very well but in a >wind and trying to turn took a lot more effort if you weren't using the >rudder. > >Getting in and out was a little difficult. I usually don't follow standard >entry/exiting. Just shove one foot in and sit down, let the other hang out, >paddle out a bit, and then eventually put the other leg in. So, I guess I >will have to practice safe entries and exits. Part of the problem was >trying to locate my foot pedals as I would be rummaging inside the seasock, >but I rewatched the video feathercraft sends and realized I didn't "burp" >the bag which may make a difference. > >Had a great weekend paddling the Cathcart Islands in Georgian Bay which is >located 2 1/2 hours from Toronto, south of Parry Sound. For those who know >the area, you can put in at Parry Island Marina and there is camping >facilities next to the marina. You can also camp pretty well anywhere on >the outside islands. I believe this is part of the 30,000 Island chain but >it's more like 50,000 islands as the water levels have been low and a lot >more islands have been popping up. Good for kayakers, bad for boaters. You >won't see boaters in this area since it would be too dangerous with all the >rocks. > >If you'd like to see some pictures of the trip, here's the website address. > >http://communities.msn.ca/WendysGorp2Pages > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 01:40:31 EDT >From: DMon707_at_aol.com >Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Feathercraft Purchase & Paddle > >In a message dated 4/27/0 7:28:49 PM, wendy_ogaki_at_hotmail.com writes: > ><< I did enough banging of the knuckles while setting it up. >> > >We call those "feathercraft knuckles." > >If you didn't want for space in a khatsalano, you must not have been going >out for more than a week. And you must not have had to carry all your water. > >If you put your food, clothing and gear in dry bags, you don't have to worry >about flotation bags. > >douglas montgomery >sfo > >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 06:14:19 -0700 >From: ralph diaz <rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com> >Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Feathercraft Purchase & Paddle > >DMon707_at_aol.com wrote: >> >> In a message dated 4/27/0 7:28:49 PM, wendy_ogaki_at_hotmail.com writes: >> >> << I did enough banging of the knuckles while setting it up. >> >> >> We call those "feathercraft knuckles." > >I used to refer to the skinned knuckles as an international sign of >recognition among Feathercraft owners. But there are ways of making >these boats that completely eliminates the skinned knuckle effects. One >of the key ways is the Remote Solution Principle (one of six I have come >up with for making a folding kayak and which are over and above the >instruction sheets and video for any of the boats). This principle >holds that sometimes a problem one is having in assembling a folding >kayak is because of something that needs correcting away from (or remote >from) where you are having the problem. A corollary to this principle >is that the solution may also be by doing some action removed from the >immediate area. > >You get skinned knuckles in certain Feathercraft because you are trying >to turn some of the side tubes into position on crossribs and to do so >you are squeezing your hands between the inside of the hull and the work >area thus skinning the knuckles as you turn or place the tubes on the >ribs. The solution is a remote move. All of the tubes in question are >also involved in the extension of the frame and have those little black >fixtures (I call them licorice nuggets) that are used in levering the >extension of the frame but you can also use the licorice nuggets to also >turn the tubes. Instead of getting your knuckles caught next to the >inside of the hull, take the shortest lever rod, insert it into the >licorice nugget and turn the tube from there. You will still have to do >a bit of guiding at the crossbar to get the tube to position there but >you will largely avoid getting the skinned knuckles. > >The factory workers at Feathercraft picked up on this idea separately >from me. They make the boats all the time. In order to avoid skinned >knuckles they do pretty much what I do except they have made a special >short piece that resembles the levering bars, i.e. with a point that >fits smoothly into the licorice nugget. It's about six inches long and >fits handily in a pocket. > >Of course, you could continue doing it the old-fashion way and have >skinned knuckles to show that you are the proud owner of an elite >Feathercraft. The skinned knuckles may also come in handy if you found >that you have walked into a rough saloon by mistake when seeking a >brew. Bar flies seeing the skinned knuckles might assume you got them >in bar brawls (which you did in a way...brawling with the bars on your >Feathercraft:-)) and hesitate to pick a fight with you. Hmmm another >undocumented advantage of owning a folding kayak :-) > >ralph diaz >- -- >- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >Ralph Diaz . . . Folding Kayaker newsletter >PO Box 0754, New York, NY 10024 >Tel: 212-724-5069; E-mail: rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com >"Where's your sea kayak?"----"It's in the bag." >- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 08:22:55 >From: Wes Boyd <boydwe_at_dmci.net> >Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Feathercraft Purchase & Paddle > >At 08:20 PM 4/27/00 PDT, Wendy Ogaki wrote: >> >>If you'd like to see some pictures of the trip, here's the website address. >> >>http://communities.msn.ca/WendysGorp2Pages > >Great photos, Wendy! Hope to get up that way this summer sometime. Enjoy >your new boat! > >- -- Wes > >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 08:38:02 EDT >From: Bhansen97_at_aol.com >Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Dry Suit Questions? > >RE: Booties and drysuits - I don't have booties, only latex cuffs. I've read >on this list that it's easier to put the suit on and to take it off if one >has booties. But after the first several times, putting the suit on and >taking off aren't that difficult anyway. I'd worry that the booties, even if >worn under neoprene socks or light neoprene boots, would easily be damaged, >and would leak. > >Worse yet, with my sweaty feet, integrated booties would soon fill with >sweat, and after just a few wearings, they'd need some of Bob Denton's good >"Sink the Stink". > >Bill Hansen >Ithaca NY > >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 05:44:09 PDT >From: "Wendy Ogaki" <wendy_ogaki_at_hotmail.com> >Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Feathercraft Purchase & Paddle > >No, just a three-day trip. And it's fresh water here so we can just pump. > >wo > > >- ----Original Message Follows---- >From: DMon707_at_aol.com >To: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net >Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Feathercraft Purchase & Paddle >Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 01:40:31 EDT > >In a message dated 4/27/0 7:28:49 PM, wendy_ogaki_at_hotmail.com writes: > ><< I did enough banging of the knuckles while setting it up. >> > >We call those "feathercraft knuckles." > >If you didn't want for space in a khatsalano, you must not have been going >out for more than a week. And you must not have had to carry all your water. > >If you put your food, clothing and gear in dry bags, you don't have to worry >about flotation bags. > >douglas montgomery >sfo > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > >*************************************************************************** >PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not >to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission >Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net >Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net >Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ >*************************************************************************** > >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 11:39:34 -0400 >From: Bill Leonhardt <WJLeonhardt_at_bnl.gov> >Subject: [Paddlewise] T Shirts---ORDER NOW!!! > >Hello List, > >With the upcoming gathering of some Paddlewisers in the NYC area, I took it >upon myself to explore the possibility of getting T shirts for people. Not >only the visitors & hosts, but anyone else who wants one (or more). I >mention the near future gathering to illustrate my timing. > >I solicited input from the list regarding colors, logo placement, etc., and >received almost as many different suggestions as replies. There is no way >I can satisfy everyone, so I propose I procure one version of T shirt. If >people are interested, I will go ahead. > >I have contacted two local vendors for pricing and delivery times. I want >to charge enough to pay for the shirts and shipping and have no profit to >deal with afterwards. More importantly, no losses either. Also, I am not >interested in bringing T shirts to the gathering. All shirts are to be >mailed. > >Here is the pricing and other info I have: > >1) Minimum order is 3 dozen shirts. Delivery time is about 2 weeks. >2) Sizes available are S thru XL. Larger sizes are available at >additional cost. >3) Shirts are $6.40 each (white) for 1 logo of 2 colors. Colored shirts >cost more. >4) Shirts are pre-shrunk 100% cotton, "Hanes" Beefy Ts, short sleeve. >4) There is a $60 setup charge for the artwork. >5) Remember, I pay 8.25% sales tax. >6) Shipping by regular mail would be $1.65 or $1.87 but I have to get an >envelope. Shipping by priority mail is $3.20, take less time and the post >office supplies the envelope. > > >Here is the shirts I will order: > >Color - White >Logo - 2 color, black & orange 6 to 8 inches in diameter, located centrally >on the front of the shirt. As Jackie pointed out, there is a place in the >logo to add your name. >Price - I think that $13.00/ shirt covers everything >Shipping - Priority mail > >I will place an order after I get email commitments for a minimum of 30 >shirts. I would like to have commitments by the end of the day, Monday, 1 >MAY 00. When I get enough commitments, I will place the order laying out >my own $. I will then tell everyone to send me: > > A check made out to Bill Leonhardt. > Check amount to be $13 times the number of shirts you want. > Quantity and sizes of shirts. > IMPORTANT - A shipping label that I can tape to the envelope that I will >use to send the shirts to you. > >I will try (no promise) to send an email when I mail out the shirt. > >DO NOT send your order or commitment to this list!!!!!!!!!!!! (Learn how >your reply buttons work) > >Send commitments to WJLeonhardt_at_bnl.gov > >Send checks & shipping labels to: > Bill Leonhardt > PO Box 353 > Upton, NY 11973-0353 > >This is the first time I've ever done this and my fantasy is that it can >work smoothly and not cost me very much. We'll see. > >If I don't get the minimum 30 commitments, I plan to go the route of >"iron-on transfer" for myself. > >Hope to hear from many of you, > >Bill > >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 12:10:42 -0400 >From: Jason Taylor <jason_at_rcschade.com> >Subject: Re:[Paddlewise] deals on dry suits > >- --(4/27/00 10:41 PM) PaddleWise wrote: > >>Hank Berger No affiliation, etc., etc. By the way, if anyone sees a deal >>on a large or extra large dry suit, please pass it on > >Check out the watersports sections of www.sierratradingpost.com and >www.gear.com. > > >Good luck, > >Jason > >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri Apr 28 12:53:22 2000 >From: JSpinner_at_aol.com >Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] T Shirts---ORDER NOW!!! > >Bill, >thnaks for all the work. where can we see the art you decided to use? > >Joan Spinner > >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 13:32:22 -0400 >From: "Joe Pylka" <pylka_at_castle.net> >Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Dry Suit Questions? > >>RE: Booties and drysuits - I don't have booties, only latex cuffs. I've >read >>on this list that it's easier to put the suit on and to take it off if one >>has booties. But after the first several times, putting the suit on and >>taking off aren't that difficult anyway. I'd worry that the booties, even >if >>worn under neoprene socks or light neoprene boots, would easily be damaged, >>and would leak. > > Get the booties. After the first several times of putting on >the gaskets, only one time with the booties will convince you that you did >the right thing. ANd the difference in warmth and comfort is tremendous. > No, they won't tear under the usual circumstances either. If they >do, they are far easier to fix with a bicycle patch kit than the gaskets >ever will be. > >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 14:23:13 -0500 (CDT) >From: Phil Huck <huck_at_mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu> >Subject: [Paddlewise] new drysuit just arrived/new boat/looking for a good >witchdoctor > > Hey, my new Kokatat drysuit arrived yesterday. It is a Meridian >Swift-entry. I took it out on the lake immediately. Water temp was 38 >degrees, wind blasting at 40+ miles an hour. Waves 2-3 feet in height, >what a gas! It was absolutly PERFECT for practicing my reenter/roll, and a >bunch of different self rescue techniques. Lots of fun. > >I have never owned a drysuit before, but borrowed one from a friend who >wussed out on our New Years Eve trip. > >What I learned - Before paddling in my new suit/new boat (BTW, my FOX >paddles great) I put on the suit, PFD, a latex swim cap, dove in and went >swimming. The waterpressure around my legs completely inflated my upper >body and I felt like one of those sumo wrestlers at the bar. I opened my >neck gasket and let out the excess - now I was comfortable. BUT, My hands >and feet soon felt the icy needles of pain. > No problem, I figured, I ran up the beach and to the car, slipped off >the suit and pulled on my waterproof/breathable Sealskinz socks and a pair >of yellow latex dishwashing gloves. I jumped back in the suit and headed >back for another swim. Being completely in the water gave me a feeling >like total bulletproofness. My face was the only skin exposed and the rest >of me felt great. I swam/floated for about half an hour in the rather >large waves without feeling any leaks, or drips in the system. > I paddled in the 70 degree weather for about an hour, using my new Fox >to surf waves, and leaping off the crests at full speed. I only rolled >once when I got too warm from the hard paddling. > I am going to miss that drysuit induced bulletproof feeling when the >water temps get warm enough to comfortably wear a wetsuit again. > My new Fox is doing well, in fact just yesterday morning, I had the >boat on the car rack and was on my way to pick up my new drysuit >the University, I was followed for about 3 miles in town by a construction >company pickup that swerved out into traffic and wouldn't shake no matter >where I turned. I pulled into the parking lot and they screeched in behind >me and came running up. > "I'm gonna die" I thought to myself as these burly guys approached. >"hey!" they yelled, "Where can we learn to kayak?" >I talked to them for a while, they left, and I began jogging to >class. I began preparing a reason for my tardiness - and I wondered, what >the heck do you think their foreman thought when he saw his 3 guys jump in >a truck at the site and tear off after me... > > Sheesh, that never happened when I had any other boats on top, I wonder >why it snagged those guys. > >Anyways, I am really happy with my new boat and suit. You could say they >were a little present to myself for finally graduating college. > >BTW, I figured out that if you pick up little jobs on the side to save for >something like a new kayak and just sign over the real checks to >the wife, she generally doesn't mind the extra clutter in the >garage. Although, I have discovered that my wife, a non-paddler, has applied > a three boat limit to our household. I don't know if that is treasony or >heresy. But she seems to be standing firm on it. > Does anybody have any suggestions for improving >my three-boat limit? Please understand, that I paddle 8-10 hours a week, >generally while teaching kayaking classes, the rest is on my own and with >other family/friends. As a boat buyer, I am content for now, but realize I >have the typical male weakness for shiny things. This fever will no doubt >strike again - I am simply planning...Though I might sell two of my boats >in the future and move towards a Pintail...Arrgh, slap me... > I am considering subjecting my wife to a mystical kayak voodoo. I know >a few good whitewaterlovin' witch doctors that might be able to help me >out. > > Anythoughts, > >I'll be holding my reins on the quiver of boats for a while. >Might go and paddle that Fox again before work. >better get going, > >Phil Huck >huck_at_mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu >thekayaker_at_yahoo.com > >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 16:02:14 -0400 >From: Steve Cramer <cramer_at_coe.uga.edu> >Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] new drysuit just arrived/new boat/looking for a >goodwitchdoctor > >Phil Huck wrote: >> >> Does anybody have any suggestions for improving >> my three-boat limit? Please understand, that I paddle 8-10 hours a week, >> generally while teaching kayaking classes, the rest is on my own and with >> other family/friends. > >Sounds like you need to use OPG* for a while. Another trick I've heard >is to buy all red boats, but this really only works for N > 5. > >But if you're teaching kayaking 8-10 hours a week, plus paddling with >family and friends, you're a pro, and you can always use another boat >for beginners, cousins, etc. > >Steve > >*--Other People's Garages > >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 16:06:55 -0400 >From: Jason Taylor <jason_at_rcschade.com> >Subject: [Paddlewise] T-shirt source > >Hey, gang. > >After reading my PW Digest this morning, I happened to get a mailing >today from an outfit called Eastland in Philadelphia. It _looks_ like >it's saying that they can do one-color T-shirts for $3.27 each plus an >$18 set up charge with a minimum order of $24. I haven't seen the logo in >question, so I don't know whether it requires more than one color. In any >case, two color shirts look like they're $4.27 with a $36 set up charge. > >I don't know anything about this place, but the price looks good. Call >them at 800/382-1812 if you want to know more. > >Good luck, > >Jason Taylor > >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 12:16:31 -0800 >From: "Seng, Dave" <Dave_Seng_at_health.state.ak.us> >Subject: RE: [Paddlewise] new drysuit just arrived/new boat/looking for a >good witchdoctor > >Phil Huck wrote: > >> Although, I have discovered that my wife, a >> non-paddler, has applied >> a three boat limit to our household. I don't know if that is >> treasony or >> heresy. But she seems to be standing firm on it. >> Does anybody have any suggestions for improving >> my three-boat limit? > > Ah, an age old problem for males everywhere. The secret to getting past >this critical fourth boat impasse is fairly simple. What you need to do is >to tell her that you're going to do her a favor and get the boats out of the >garage, thereby making it look neater and less crowded, and will be building >a small kayak shed in the backyard. Once you get consent to that you're >home free - just make sure that the shed design is easily expandable (who >knows how many boats you'll end up with!). Once the kayaks are safely >ensconced in the shed where she won't be forced to look at them every day as >she does in the garage you can begin to expand the fleet at whatever rate >your checkbook will support. A separate checking account can be helpful >with this little stumbling block. The kayaks stored in the shed will soon >be viewed by your adoring spouse as "Phil's kayaks" instead of "those three >kayaks" - a critical differentiation that forms the crux of this theory. >The fourth boat is just lumped together into the pool of "Phil's kayaks" in >her mind and peace will continue to reign in the household. After the >fourth boat is accepted subsequent boats can be added easily into the quiver >without causing as much as a raised eyebrow. > >Dave Seng >Juneau, Alaska >(author Pat McManus does it a lot better than I can!) > >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 15:22:51 -0500 >From: Patrick Maun <pmaun_at_bitstream.net> >Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] new drysuit just arrived/new boat/looking for a >goodwitchdoctor > >Try this: "Honestly hun, I have *no* idea how that thing got in >there, but isn't she a beaut!" > >or perhaps "Oh that, that was there when we moved in." > >maybe "Boat, what boat, and have I ever told you how beautiful you look." > >while your at it "Um, that's Bob's boat, he's, uh, keeping it here >while he gets over, ahh, carpal tunnel syndrome." > >and "I could swear there were only three out there last I looked, are >you sure, and have I ever told you how beautiful you look." > >These might work for a boat or two. > >- -Patrick > >>Phil Huck wrote: >>> >>> Does anybody have any suggestions for improving >>> my three-boat limit? Please understand, that I paddle 8-10 hours a week, >>> generally while teaching kayaking classes, the rest is on my own and with >> > other family/friends. >> > >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 16:27:26 -0400 >From: Stephen Bird <stephen.bird_at_superaje.com> >Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Feathercraft Purchase & Paddle > >On Thu, 27 Apr 2000 20:20:32 PDT, Wendy wrote: > >>Well, bought my boat a couple of weeks ago and set it up. Settled on the >>Khatsalano S. I was debating between the Khatsalano and the S, but what >>made up my mind was the price. I was able to get the S (sewn sealskin >>version) for about $2,000 cheaper at Mountain Co-op.... > >Trailhead in Toronto (416) 862-0881 is currently having a no-tax (15%) >sale. I just purchased a Current Designs bent shaft Edge. I am happy. :-) >If you know what you want, it might be worth a call. They are very kindly >mailing me the paddle for (seemingly) the cost of their postage. Happy+. >- --- >cheers, Stephen > >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 16:57:35 -0700 >From: "Sailboat Restorations, Inc." <sailboatrestorations_at_worldnet.att.net> >Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] new drysuit just arrived/new boat/looking for a >good witchdoctor > >> Does anybody have any suggestions for improving >> my three-boat limit? > >Sure. I've dealt with this plenty. > >First, since you are a professional in the area of kayaking, your boat (and >gear) purchases should be tax deductions. Most people don't know much about >taxes. Just tell her they are all tax deductable, and that may well end the >matter. > >Second, tell her the next boat is hers. Give it to her as a present on her >birthday or something (be sure to also give her a real present). "Dear, >this is for you." If she never uses it, then you're home free. If she >takes up kayaking, then maybe the boat-buying bug will get her, too . . . >meaning automatic expansion of The Boat Number Limit. > >Third, tell her it was bequeathed to you by a kayaking friend who had to >give up the sport because of some catastrophic illness. "Honey, you >remember my old friend Schmobl? No? Old college buddy. . . Anyway, he has >developed Frankenstein's Syndrome and can't paddle any more. He gave me his >boat. What? Yes, it is brand new. He just bought it right before he >discovered the disease. (Deep sigh, wipe away slight tear. . . )." This >usually only works once. > >Fourth, tell her you are signing up for a kayak building course on Wednesday >evenings. On Wednesday evenings, go play poker with your friends. Then, if >you don't lose too much money, after six weeks bring home a new boat. "See, >sweety, this is what I made in class. No. Didn't cost a penny." > >Fifth, as a general rule always pay for boating stuff with cash. No record. >Then lie about how much it cost. I have found that cooperative retailers >are sometimes willing to give you a fake receipt. This helps. "Yeah, it >was on sale. Last year's model, and they *had* to get rid of it. >Tremendous deal." > >Sixth, make things up about the source of the money. "Yeah, I won big at >poker last Wednesday. . . . What? What kayaking building course? Oh, yeah, >that one. I meant poker last . . . um, at work." Or: "I found $3,000.00 >laying by the side of the road." Etc. > >There is always The Last Resort: D-I-V-O-R-C-E. I did this once over a >sailboat, and never looked back. As my Mom says, "There's a lid for every >pot." And a pot that loves kayaks might just find a lid that does, too. > >Anyway, good luck. > >Mark > >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 14:51:33 -0700 >From: Rob MacDonald <robm_at_udl.com> >Subject: [Paddlewise] Crabbing > >I have never tried a triangular trap. The pro's use cylindrical ones, about >3-4 ft diameter by 18" high. They work well, but don't fold down into a >kayak size bundle readily. The common folding traps in NW BC are >rectangular, and seem to work OK, but not as well as the round ones. > >With a good 15-20 ft spring tide, running them from shore (no boat) would be >feasible, but generally, the trap is set in about 30-40 ft of water. Kind >of deep to wade. > >For bait, bottom fish work great, or fish heads/guts or similar. Chicken >parts work too. I have been told that red meat (beef, pork) make the crabs >toxic, but I don't know for certain. Fish parts are the safest, and work, >and smelly isn't a necessity, but the crabs don't mind if they are a bit >high. > >I have never tried to crab from a kayak (yet!). Getting the crabs out of the >top of a typical trap may be kind of difficult, and messy. Might be easier >to do it on shore, then take the trap back out when empty. Put the crabs in >a gunny sack to keep them cool, moist and in one place . My preference >would be to keep them on deck, if doing this from the kayak. > >The minimum size Dungeness crab (in Canada) is about 6-1/2" across the back, >so that gives a good starting point for choosing the pot. The bigger, the >better, as they die a lot quicker if the water doesn't come off the boil as >they go in. Red rock crabs are smaller, so a smaller pot can be used. > >Stay away from aluminum pots for this job. My experience with aluminum >Bulldog billycans from England is that they develop pinholes leaks when used >to boil seawater. They seem to last OK when used for porridge, though. >Maybe other alloys hold up better to boiling seawater. Big "stainless" >steel pots are pretty cheap these days. > >Good luck, and don't forget to thank the crab and its Maker as it goes in >the pot. > >Rob. > >------------------------------ > >End of PaddleWise V1 #1063 >************************** > >*************************** >PaddleWise Digest >*************************** > > >************************************************************** >This email has been swept by MAILSweeper at DNV >for the presence of computer viruses. >**************************************************************" *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
At 10:34 AM 5/2/00 +0200, Dalberg, Tor wrote: >Hi Paddlewisers >I am relatively new to paddling sport. I have always been impressed of >how eskimo rolls works and looks that easy. >Now have taking part in Eskimo roll courses for two seasons in swimming >pool and learnt to do it myself by the C to C technique. >The last that impresses me still was recently on television. I saw >Eskimo roll during forward paddling. I seems that the velocity was not >influenced by the roll at all. How is this possible? First of all, you need to do something about how your email client responds to messages. For some reason it included the text from about a dozen or so previous messages and included them as part of the "Original message".... As far as your question goes, the paddlers velocity probably *did* effect the roll but the person demonstrating was probably sufficiently skilled that the subtle blade angle changes made were undetectable. In any case, practicing a roll on the move is a good idea. Next time you get in some pool practices (or whenever you're practicing your roll) don't just practice from a "set up" position. When you *do* capsize unintentlonally it's very unlikely that you're going to flop over on the side you want with your paddle all lined up and ready to go around and set up for your C-to-C roll. Practice rolling while on the move, falling over in both directions. Let go of your paddle with one hand and fall over. While practicing with a partner have them stand in the water behind you and rock your boat (try to keep from capsizing using a low/high brace). When you do capsize, roll back up. Have your partner capsize you in both directions. In pool sessionsthat I have done, the "helper" will even go so far as to lean on your boat to make it more difficult (or impossible) to roll up the first time on the side you want, so that you're forced to practice your offside roll. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 5/2/00 6:59:59 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Tor.Dalberg_at_dnv.com writes: > The last that impresses me still was recently on television. I saw > Eskimo roll during forward paddling. I seems that the velocity was not > influenced by the roll at all. How is this possible? The paddler probably executed a sweep roll to a lay-back position. In this roll, the body flows along with the water past the boat and will help continue the forward momentum. The C-C roll slows the boat because it is executed with the body pretty much at right angles to the kayak and extended out into the flow of the water, rather than flowing with it. YMMV Harold *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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