I missed the Tim Ingram fiasco, but have read his web page and the Paddlewise Topics on sponsons. I am still looking for information on the value of sponsons if you want to sport fish or kite sail from your tippy kayak (with rudder). Any paddlers with experience? Opinions? Ken Cooperstein *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I think the issue wasn't so much the sponsons, which have merit for certain situations, but the shameless way Ingram was promoting them. cu -----Original Message----- From: owner-paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net [mailto:owner-paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net]On Behalf Of Kenneth Cooperstein Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 8:21 AM To: paddlewise, paddlewise Subject: [Paddlewise] Sponsons for fishing/kites I missed the Tim Ingram fiasco, but have read his web page and the Paddlewise Topics on sponsons. I am still looking for information on the value of sponsons if you want to sport fish or kite sail from your tippy kayak (with rudder). Any paddlers with experience? Opinions? Ken Cooperstein *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ *************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
For those who miss Tim, he seems to be alive and well. A letter to the editor from him appeared in Atlantic Coastal Kayaker pushing his sponsons. The usual stuff. It seemed much less strident than before but I think any first time reader of his stuff would have considered it shameless and overstated. Me? Having seen him at his worse, this letter looked pretty tame, i.e. no one was accused of killing babies or signing suicide pacts, etc. But anyway, for those who engage in "Whatever happened to xxxxx?" exercises, Tim is still out there. ralph Bob Denton wrote: > > I think the issue wasn't so much the sponsons, which have merit for certain > situations, but the shameless way Ingram was promoting them. > > cu > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > [mailto:owner-paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net]On Behalf Of Kenneth > Cooperstein > Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 8:21 AM > To: paddlewise, paddlewise > Subject: [Paddlewise] Sponsons for fishing/kites > > I missed the Tim Ingram fiasco, but have read his web page and the > Paddlewise Topics on sponsons. I am still looking for information on > the value of sponsons if you want to sport fish or kite sail from your > tippy kayak (with rudder). Any paddlers with experience? Opinions? > > Ken Cooperstein > > *************************************************************************** > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not > to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ > *************************************************************************** > *************************************************************************** > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not > to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ > *************************************************************************** -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralph Diaz . . . Folding Kayaker newsletter PO Box 0754, New York, NY 10024 Tel: 212-724-5069; E-mail: rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com "Where's your sea kayak?"----"It's in the bag." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Thu, 15 Jun 2000, ralph diaz wrote: > For those who miss Tim, he seems to be alive and well. A letter to the > editor from him appeared in Atlantic Coastal Kayaker pushing his > sponsons. The usual stuff. It seemed much less strident than before > but I think any first time reader of his stuff would have considered it > shameless and overstated. Me? Having seen him at his worse, this > letter looked pretty tame, i.e. no one was accused of killing babies or > signing suicide pacts, etc. I emailed Tamsin Venn, the ACK editor, about Tim's letter. She replied that it had undergone some pretty good editing before publication and that it was published as a means of showing different viewpoints. Unfortunately Tim's letter and signature did not include any mention that he manufacturers and sells sponsons. kirk *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
>From Kenneth Cooperstein > Subject: [Paddlewise] Sponsons for fishing/kites > Any paddlers with experience? Opinions? > We normally paddle our double without the company of other paddlers (nobody loves us), so I "made" a pair of sponsons to increase our self sufficiency. They consist of a pair of inflatable fenders, with appropriate straps, adjusters and clips to mount them just behind the front cockpit. If you want to see what they look like (no photos in the water, sorry), go to: www.voyager.co.nz/~alsjfs/sponsons.htm We have only used them about 3 times, and in waves about a metre high, winds 20 - 25 knots. 1. They reduced any tendency to broach when running down wind, even when angled down the waves by 30 or so degrees. 2. They were OK upwind and beam on. 3. Probably most important, they increased my confidence regarding our seaworthiness. In calm water I can stand up on the seat easily. In a single I think you would want to mount them just behind the cockpit so that they do not interfere with your normal paddling stroke. They should be adjusted so that they are at or just above water level when you are in the kayak. When you are level there is no effect or drag, but the more you lean the greater the righting moment. The cost was fenders $40, straps etc $40, nuts bolts and washers $20. Total NZ$100 (US$47). At the time I made them I had never heard of you know who (or Paddlewise either for that matter). Allan Singleton Hamilton NZ *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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