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From: Steven Featherkile <madwolf_at_earthlink.net>
subject: [Paddlewise] Waterproof/Breathable no good in saltwater?
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 05:46:19 -0700
I just read in a guidebook for paddling around Vancouver Island, BC,
that waterproof/breathable fabric looses it's waterproof capability in
saltwater.  That is news to me.  Anyone have firsthand info?
Steve Featherkile


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From: Steve Cramer <cramer_at_coe.uga.edu>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Waterproof/Breathable no good in saltwater?
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 14:41:53 -0400
Steven Featherkile wrote:
> 
> I just read in a guidebook for paddling around Vancouver Island, BC,
> that waterproof/breathable fabric looses it's waterproof capability in
> saltwater.  That is news to me.  Anyone have firsthand info?

I don't, but the Gore people do. Go to www.gore.com and do a search on
salt water. About 1/2 way down the results page you will find this
sentence: "GORE-TEX® Fabric Is Not Harmed By Salt Water!" Unfortunately,
the link it points to is being remodeled.

There was a bunch of nonsense about this on r.b.p recently, including
someone who claimed that the salt crystals lodged in the pores and
stretched them open. 

If you believe that salt water hurts waterproof/breathable fabric, you
wouldn't dare sweat in the stuff, would you? Of course, othere
manufacturers may say differently, and, as always, YMMV.

Steve
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From: Dave Kruger <dkruger_at_pacifier.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Waterproof/Breathable no good in saltwater?
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 17:08:30 -0700
Steven Featherkile wrote:
> 
> I just read in a guidebook for paddling around Vancouver Island, BC,
> that waterproof/breathable fabric looses it's waterproof capability in
> saltwater. 

False.  Over five years of use here and no problems.  Others on PW have cited
the Gore info.  Also contact Kokatat.

The only caveat is that you need to rinse it daily (fresh water is preferable
if you have it) to prevent salt **buildup** which potentially could reduce the
*breathability,* but not the waterproofness.

The latter is what Kokatat will tell you, and *knowledgeable* retailers (thank
you, Suzy, Steve, Cindy at Alder Creek, Ben at Pacific Wave, and others).

BTW, how is the paddling trip for Explorers shaping up?

-- 
Dave Kruger
Astoria, OR
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From: Dan Hagen <dan_at_hagen.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Waterproof/Breathable no good in saltwater?
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 19:51:18 -0700
Dave Kruger wrote:
> 
> Steven Featherkile wrote:
> >
> > I just read in a guidebook for paddling around Vancouver Island, BC,
> > that waterproof/breathable fabric looses it's waterproof capability in
> > saltwater.
> 
> False.  Over five years of use here and no problems.  Others on PW have cited
> the Gore info.  Also contact Kokatat.
> 
> The only caveat is that you need to rinse it daily (fresh water is preferable
> if you have it) to prevent salt **buildup** which potentially could reduce the
> *breathability,* but not the waterproofness.

I have never rinsed my Gore-Tex garments on a trip, and have not had a
problem. But I do keep the DWR ("durable water repellant" finish) fresh.
I recoat two or more times per year, depending on use. I believe that
the "rinse daily" advice is overly conservative. 

Dan Hagen
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