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From: Kenneth Cooperstein <cprstnc1_at_optonline.net>
subject: [Paddlewise] Yum-yum yellow -- bug attractant?
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 07:08:16 -0400
Has anyone else noticed that their bright yellow composite kayak
attracts insects of all kinds, particularly the tiny biting flies?

When I leave mine in an outdoor boat rack for a few days, I find it
covered with  hundreds of tiny fly carcasses.

This never happened with white, blue red or green.

Ken Cooperstein


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From: <dmccarty_at_us.ibm.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Yum-yum yellow -- bug attractant?
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 10:49:18 -0400
I have noticed this somewhat on my yum yum yellow kayak.

I really notice that ticks like the color red.  When I put my red plastic
gas cans on the ground they often attract ticks.  I'm assuming its the
color and not my scent left on the can.

Maybe the bugs are attracted to something you put on the yak?

Later...
Dan


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From: <NEWTOT_at_mail.modot.state.mo.us>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Yum-yum yellow -- bug attractant?
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 10:39:14 -0500
Trading boats on my last paddle, I noticed that bugs were much more attracted to
the red boat than the blue boat.  But I also remembered that it had a fresh coat
of Formula 303 on it...
Off Topic -
I also notice the increased presence of bugs when I use my headlamp at night -
it's like a beacon to the bug world!  I hate to give away my location just
because I need to see what's ahead.  Wish I could afford night vision goggles!


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From: Bob Denton <BDenton_at_aquagulf.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Yum-yum yellow -- bug attractant?
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 11:03:49 -0400
My yellow Nordkapp doesn't attract bugs here in Florida. I recently
purchased a yellow white water boat in Tennessee, and when I was loading it
on the car I was besieged by some type of flying critters that were
definitely attracted to the yellow color.

I guess the bugs in Florida are color blind.

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Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Yum-yum yellow -- bug attractant?


I have noticed this somewhat on my yum yum yellow kayak.

I really notice that ticks like the color red.  When I put my red plastic
gas cans on the ground they often attract ticks.  I'm assuming its the
color and not my scent left on the can.

Maybe the bugs are attracted to something you put on the yak?

Later...
Dan


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From: Whyte, David <DHW_at_Mail.amsa.gov.au>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Yum-yum yellow -- bug attractant?
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 08:46:22 +1000
Yes. I have a bright yellow deck and blue hull and bees seem to like the
yellow

David Whyte


> Has anyone else noticed that their bright yellow composite kayak
> attracts insects of all kinds, particularly the tiny biting flies?
> 
> When I leave mine in an outdoor boat rack for a few days, I find it
> covered with  hundreds of tiny fly carcasses.
> 
> This never happened with white, blue red or green.
> 
> Ken Cooperstein
> 
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From: Seng, Dave <Dave_Seng_at_health.state.ak.us>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Yum-yum yellow -- bug attractant?
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 15:00:37 -0800
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Whyte, David [mailto:DHW_at_Mail.amsa.gov.au]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 2:46 PM
> 
> Yes. I have a bright yellow deck and blue hull and bees seem 
> to like the
> yellow

<grin> - The reason the bees don't get all over the blue part (which is the
color they're really attracted to) is that, being the hull, it's underwater.
It all stems from their flower preferences - all the self-respecting bees in
these parts definitely prefer our state flower, the blue forget-me-not, over
pedestrian yellow dandelions.

I need to go for a paddle!
Dave Seng
Juneau, Alaska
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From: Whyte, David <DHW_at_Mail.amsa.gov.au>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Yum-yum yellow -- bug attractant?
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 09:45:37 +1000
	<grin> - The reason the bees don't get all over the blue part (which
is the
	color they're really attracted to) is that, being the hull, it's
underwater.

That could be true but its when I have landed I notice the bees, not while I
am paddling. I am certainly no plant expert but I think (and other
Australians may want to correct me) that in Australia blue flowers are much
rarer than yellow ones. With the national flower (the yellow Wattle) being
the most common.

David

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Whyte, David [mailto:DHW_at_Mail.amsa.gov.au]
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 2:46 PM
> > 
> > Yes. I have a bright yellow deck and blue hull and bees seem 
> > to like the
> > yellow
> 
> <grin> - The reason the bees don't get all over the blue part (which is
> the
> color they're really attracted to) is that, being the hull, it's
> underwater.
> It all stems from their flower preferences - all the self-respecting bees
> in
> these parts definitely prefer our state flower, the blue forget-me-not,
> over
> pedestrian yellow dandelions.
> 
> I need to go for a paddle!
> Dave Seng
> Juneau, Alaska
> 
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From: Matt Broze <mkayaks_at_oz.net>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Yum-yum yellow -- bug attractant?
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 22:01:41 -0700
Kenneth Cooperstein <cprstnc1_at_optonline.net> wrote:

>>Has anyone else noticed that their bright yellow composite kayak
attracts insects of all kinds, particularly the tiny biting flies?

When I leave mine in an outdoor boat rack for a few days, I find it
covered with  hundreds of tiny fly carcasses.

This never happened with white, blue red or green.<<

not only have I noticed but have been advising customers of it when
discussing the pros and cons of different colors. Yellow is the Coast Guards
favorite color as well as the bees and the flies. I can recall a yellow and
blue kayak side by side. The blue kayak had about 10 black flies on it the
yellow one must have had 200. Usually this is not a problem because when you
are on the water you are moving and there are few bug and when you are on
land you are not in the kayak very long. Possibly the yellow kayak will
attract the biting bugs to the kayak rather than you (unless you camp right
next to it). If you wear a yellow PFD expect to be checked out by a lot of
bees. If you have a red one on those huge bees buzzing you occasionally are
actually hummingbirds. I suspect these bugs feed on yellow flowers.


I once landed at Tatoosh Island on the NW tip of WA and the member of our
party of four who had the yellow kayak was spotted by three seagulls and I
don't think any of the other three took a single direct hit. Maybe this was
just a coincidence but I've always wondered if it wasn't. Anyone have any
more anecdotal evidence here? Don't suppose there has been any scientific
research on this one.

Matt Broze
http://www.marinerkayaks.com


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From: <tfj_at_interaccess.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Yum-yum yellow -- bug attractant?
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 20:10:15 -0500
I paddle a lot in Georgian Bay, which is thick with mosquitoes and black flies
and the like in the summer.  (Mosquitoes never seem to be much of an issue
unless I'm in very sheltered water.  It's the black flies that dog you,
especially in the heat of the day.)  There is no doubt that flying insects are
attracted to my yum-yum yellow boat, but my impression is that it distracts them
from me.

Matt Broze wrote:

> Kenneth Cooperstein <cprstnc1_at_optonline.net> wrote:
>
> >>Has anyone else noticed that their bright yellow composite kayak
> attracts insects of all kinds, particularly the tiny biting flies?
>
> When I leave mine in an outdoor boat rack for a few days, I find it
> covered with  hundreds of tiny fly carcasses.
>
> This never happened with white, blue red or green.<<
>
> not only have I noticed but have been advising customers of it when
> discussing the pros and cons of different colors. Yellow is the Coast Guards
> favorite color as well as the bees and the flies. I can recall a yellow and
> blue kayak side by side. The blue kayak had about 10 black flies on it the
> yellow one must have had 200. Usually this is not a problem because when you
> are on the water you are moving and there are few bug and when you are on
> land you are not in the kayak very long. Possibly the yellow kayak will
> attract the biting bugs to the kayak rather than you (unless you camp right
> next to it). If you wear a yellow PFD expect to be checked out by a lot of
> bees. If you have a red one on those huge bees buzzing you occasionally are
> actually hummingbirds. I suspect these bugs feed on yellow flowers.
>
> I once landed at Tatoosh Island on the NW tip of WA and the member of our
> party of four who had the yellow kayak was spotted by three seagulls and I
> don't think any of the other three took a single direct hit. Maybe this was
> just a coincidence but I've always wondered if it wasn't. Anyone have any
> more anecdotal evidence here? Don't suppose there has been any scientific
> research on this one.
>
> Matt Broze
> http://www.marinerkayaks.com
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From: Bob Denton <BDenton_at_aquagulf.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Yum-yum yellow -- bug attractant?
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 07:52:31 -0400
I don't own a dark kayak, all mine are yellow or white, but I did notice
when I camped in the Everglades a couple of years ago towards the end of the
season, when the deer flies started to become a problem, they would go after
dark objects, especially the tires of my van. 

cya

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From: Richard Frost <maloneme_at_gwi.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Yum-yum yellow -- bug attractant?
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 02:16:43 -0400
Mosquitoes, and maybe some of these other critters, are attracted by heat.  Dark
things might be hotter.

Richard Frost

Bob Denton wrote:

> I don't own a dark kayak, all mine are yellow or white, but I did notice
> when I camped in the Everglades a couple of years ago towards the end of the
> season, when the deer flies started to become a problem, they would go after
> dark objects, especially the tires of my van.


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From: Bob Denton <BDenton_at_aquagulf.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Yum-yum yellow -- bug attractant?
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 08:33:32 -0400
Mosquitoes are attracted to the CO2 in mammalian breath. You're right about
the deer flies, as they also went after the exhaust pipe.


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From: Bob Denton <BDenton_at_aquagulf.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Yum-yum yellow -- bug attractant?
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 16:19:04 -0400
Maybe it was perfume or something the skin was exuding..

cya


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