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From: Marilyn B. Kircus <mkircus_at_tenet.edu>
subject: [Paddlewise] how do you find relief?
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 13:53:51 -0700
I'm thinking about that as well.  I have a friend who has prostrate trouble and he just uses his bailer (from his canoe - made of the top of a Clorox bottle, complete with the lid) and then pours it over the side.  His paddles with a woman who does the same.  Other friends tell me I haven't lived until I've peed down the leg of my wet suit.  Arthur Herbert talked about having to balance on the back of his kayak to relieve himself during his 19 day crossing of the Gulf.  Urine from a healthy person is free of bacteria so I don't have a problem with disposing of it over the side.  Feces on the other had poses health hazards but if you were far enough out, this might be your only choice unless you had a plastic bag to store it in until you could bury it on shore.

I do know that this involves anatomy differences between men and women, including our balance points and the receptacle which will work for each.  I do hope the experts out there, both men and women,  will share their techniques.


Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 22:03:41 -0700
From: lee hsieh <lhsieh_at_sfo.com>

I didn't see any mention of this on the paddlewise website so i'll assume
this topic hasn't been covered yet.  Being an active sort of fella in my
early 30's, i usually have to urinate about once every hour[can hold for
2..heard it's not healthy] due to a high metabolism.  For those of you with
similar circumstances, how do you relieve yourself during long trips in
your kayak.  Short of exiting or peeing in your wetsuit, there must be some
tried and true methods out there.





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From: <JCMARTIN43_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] how do you find relief?
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 08:21:58 EDT
Lee asked, "For those of you with similar circumstances, how do you relieve yourself during long trips in your kayak."

Check the archives under "footpump".  Very efficient, kinder to the sponge, allows you to retain your skirt integrity.

Jack  
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From: Vicki Basham <vbasham_at_replaytv.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] how do you find relief?
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 10:40:22 -0700
You men have it so easy!

Vicki (not a guy) in California


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From: Andree Hurley <ahurley_at_viewit.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] how do you find relief?
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 02:24:08 -0400 (EDT)
>  will share their techniques.

Well, ok...

In groups in Baja we just let people swim from the Kleppers as 
it was so warm, always with a support boat modestly nearby. On one hot day 
in the San Juans we let someone sort of go in "half way" (teen-age girl)
while three boats were rafted up, again modestly. This was bordering on an
urgency, can't wait sort of thing, with no place to get out (one of those
long stories).

On solo trips when I couldn't get to shore I used my coffee cup once, and
another time found just the tip of a rock near shore to put a paddle brace
on so I could get one leg out,  (etc.)

I suggest women wear a two piece bathing suit and baggy shorts. 

We always encourage people to keep drinking and try to find a lot of 
acceptable bathroom spots (eg outhouses in the San Juans and other
places). With kids I mention that he/she who pees the most gets a gold
star.

I do seem to remember this thread, however...

Andree

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From: Dickson, Dana A. <dana.dickson_at_unisys.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] how do you find relief?
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 09:25:55 -0500
  > Subject: [Paddlewise] how do you find relief?
  > 

Depends...

RWR endorsed
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