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From: Patrick Maun <pmaun_at_bitstream.net>
subject: [Paddlewise] Gettin' the Odd Water Feeling
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:21:58 -0500
Hey all,

I have an odd "phenomenon" I'm curious about. Last week I was on one 
of my lunch-time paddles in the Mississippi. On this particular 
paddle, I headed to to an area that can get a little rough. The river 
is at its narrowest, both sides are bounded by walls and barges line 
it on both sides. To compound things, it is right beneath a line of 
bluffs to wind is funneled down onto the river. The wind was gusting 
and the barges were running the day I was paddling, I was headed 
downstream and ended up pretty wet from smashing through the waves 
(.5'-2').

Once I turned around things got a little strange. The wind was 
blowing pretty briskly, heading back up stream I was being blown, 
had following seas and was going upstream. What was strange was the 
way the water felt. It was like I was paddling in foam or surf spray. 
I felt almost no resistance from the water. I think it had to do with 
both the waves and the fact that with the wind I was really flying 
(it felt like it was at least 9mph), but it did not feel good. I felt 
extremely unstable. It didn't help that I kept surfing down these 
little standing waves and broaching. I normally don't mind this, but 
I think that due to the "odd water feeling" (and possibly that I 
would often broach towards a parked barge) I felt very uncomfortable. 
Those of you who paddle in current and tidal races have probably 
dealt with this.

Anyone experienced this? What is the best line of defense here? I had 
my rudder up. Would a rudder/skeg help in a situation like this? I 
plan on heading back to that stretch next time the wind is blowing 
hard to try and figure some things out, but any tips would be nice.

-Patrick
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From: Bob Denton <BDenton_at_aquagulf.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Gettin' the Odd Water Feeling
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 13:38:58 -0400
What is the water quality of the Mississippi? Is it safe to swim in?

cu

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From: Bob Klemick <klemick_at_home.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Gettin' the Odd Water Feeling
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 17:56:33 -0500
Kinda hard to swim but you can walk on it..........bob klemick

Bob Denton wrote:

> What is the water quality of the Mississippi? Is it safe to swim in?
>
> cu


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From: Patrick Maun <pmaun_at_bitstream.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Gettin' the Odd Water Feeling
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 18:44:57 -0500
Since I spend quite a bit of time on the Mighty Mississip, I am very 
curious as well. The water quality has improved drastically -- dozens 
of species of fish now populate my stretch of river. There is still 
overflow and processing that goes on. One of the major pollution 
sources is agricultural run-off along the Minnesota River whose 
confluence with the Miss. is a few miles west of here. I am going to 
look into this one and will post a report on the list.

-Patrick

>Kinda hard to swim but you can walk on it..........bob klemick
>
>Bob Denton wrote:
>
>>  What is the water quality of the Mississippi? Is it safe to swim in?
>>
>  > cu
>>
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From: Fred T, CA Kayaker <cakayak_at_mindspring.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Gettin' the Odd Water Feeling - Gotta Go!
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 05:31:57 -0700
 At 11:21 AM 9/6/2000 -0500, Patrick Maun wrote:

  What was strange was the way the water felt. It was like I was
  paddling in foam or surf spray. I felt almost no resistance from the
  water. I think it had to do with both the waves and the fact that
  with the wind I was really flying (it felt like it was at least
  9mph), but it did not feel good. I felt extremely unstable.


Ah yes, I have felt the same thing.  I believe that it is a result of the
stern lifting out of the water some.  It feels like you are suddenly
moving on all axis at the same time.   Forward movement with your stern
making a slight circle motion around your longitudinal axis.

I have also felt the Squirrelly feeling in following seas.  Putting my
rudder down seemed to help some.  I once paddled ten miles in one hour
and twenty minutes without hardly taking a stroke or so it seemed. 
Following seas and a 15 knot tail wind made up where my paddling power
left off.

Fred
California Kayaker

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