Re: [Paddlewise] Help with foldable!!!

From: ralph diaz <rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com>
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 11:42:35 -0800
Dave Gutierrez wrote:
> 
> Alright.  I am in a bind here so I really need some
> help from all of you with foldables out there.  I am
> finally getting ready to leave Bahrain and get back to
> the States so I am packing things up.  Well, today I
> went to work on my K-1 and I happened to notice, while
> taking it apart, that two of the pipe segments would
> not seperate from one another!!!!  

Hi Dave,

I have covered this several times in my newsletter.  Further below is
from the May/June 1997 issue.

I have done some more stuff regarding this but can't find it but will
paraphrase some advice to try before resorting to what appeared in that
1997 article.  It comes from Doug Simpson owner of the company.

Fill the boat with fresh water about half way and swish it around in the
boat.  Empty and repeat the process with somewhat less water, not so
much that you and an assistant or two can't pick it up and begin
twisting the boat some; then empty.  Next fill the boat just a bit with
water and go paddle it preferably over some swells.  All of these
actions will tend to get water into the tube ends, perhaps enough to
then take the boat apart.

(BTW, If you insist on keeping the boat assembled, it is best to do so
upside down which will move bilge water away from the tubes, especially
the keel which is the most likely spot to seize up.  Also do rinse it
out regularly.  And let air out of the sponsons (the sponsons pressing
against the frame help give a curve to the boat, which is fine for
paddling but in storage will also curve the frame and possibly stick
connections together.)

Now the advice from Folding Kayaker three years ago. It is mainly aimed
at the K-Light but applicable to the K-1:

HOW TO UNSSTICK A STUCK FRAME
It happens every spring.  No, not just the birds and the bees.  Paddlers
who have left their Feathercrafts assembled in some nice snug storage
spot, go out for a paddle with the boat.  Then decide to knock it down
for travel somewhere and, well, it won’t knock down!
	This also happens during the course of the normal summer months
paddling season.  Feathercrafts left assembled from early in the season,
get certain of their parts stuck or frozen together.  This is not an
indictment of what are fine boats especially the K-Light. It is just
that the model is so ubiquitous that more cases of freeze up of them are
being reported than of any other model of folding kayak.
	I’m hearing of cases all the time.  Usually the K-Light has been left
assembled for a year or more.  I know someone on the West Coast who is
extremely happy about the problem.  She called me before buying a demo
from a West Coast dealer and I suggested she see if the boat would knock
down.  The dealer, much to his chagrin, couldn’t (it had been left
assembled for two years!) and had to hacksaw a piece or two.  The
already low demo price was knocked down even more and new pieces ordered
at the expense of the dealer.  Our new owner of the K-Light was
delighted!
	What to do if you have a frozen K-Light?  Well, the first thing or
things obviously is preventative: Don’t leave the boat assembled too
long, let’s say not beyond about two months.  Also, make certain that
all the connection points are lubricated whenever you are assembling the
boat and plan to leave it that way for a period.  The boat simply will
not stick in ordinary use or if left assembled for trips and vacations.

Step-by-Step
	But, OK, you didn’t do those things and your boat will not knock down. 
What do you do now?  Before you reach for that hacksaw as did the dealer
mentioned above, Here are a number of tips.  They mainly come from Randy
Henriksen of New York Kayaking Company in the heart of Manhattan (601 W.
26th St,  12th fl. NY, NY , phone/fax 212-924-1327) plus other measures
I have seen elsewhere.

1.  If the problem is a seized or stuck chine bar, make certain to first
try to straighten out the bar.  Both the chine and gunwale bars on a
K-Light take on a slight curve where they meet in the middle of the boat
and connect with a slider bar.  (The chine bars are the more likely of
the two to stick since they may be lying in bilge water and wet sand
part of the time; the gunwale bars generally don’t give any difficulty
because they are above it all.)  So part of the problem is that the
tubes are under sideward tension (as they should be for a good tight
frame when the boat is in use).  Very often, even in boats that seem
stuck, by working on lining up the tubes in a straight line and then
trying to twist or rotate the sliding bar, the adhesion is broken.

2.	While doing the above, squirt some lubricant generously around the
ends of the slider.  People have tried WD-40 and other such products. 
Check out blister packages at auto supply shops for what might work to
deal with seized or frozen bolts and nuts.  Don’t worry about damage to
the skin.  Hypalon is used for all sorts of industrial applications
including conveyor belts to carry corrosive materials.  If you wish slip
some plastic or cardboard behind the area to protect the hypalon
although it really doesn’t need it.  Another product that could work is
Boeshield T-9, which is an excellent lubricant to use on the parts
regularly as a preventative measure and is useful for working with parts
when they are already stuck.

3.	If the slider and tubes are still stuck bang on them.  The purpose of
this step is to break adhesion and really does work wonders the majority
of the time.  But you don’t want to break or bend the tubes in the
process.  Randy recommends that you use a small block of aluminum to
protect the tubes and slider.  The aluminum block or plate should be
about a quarter inch thick and the profile of a pack of cigarettes. 
This size of aluminum is the right thickness to transfer a lot of
vibrating force from a hammer’s blow to the stuck area but also soft
enough to be sacrificial, i.e. take all the dents while sparing the
tubes any damage.
	Take the plate and move it along the area.  First on one of the tubes
just before it enters the slider area, then the slider itself and then
the other adjoining tube.  Be patient and do give it more than just love
taps.  The protective aluminum will allow some forceful hammering blows
but not of the forging iron on an anvil level.

4.	Try twisting the slider and tubes in opposite directions.  You have
to be careful here.  A pair of ordinary wrenches will damage the
tubing.  I haven’t tried this but some of the strap type pipe wrenches
on the market (which use a band of heavy fabric strapping instead of
chain) might work to do this.  Also a smooth faced set of wrenches and
some rubber strips may also be able to get the necessary amount of
opposite direction rotation to loosen the adhesion.  Try this only after
you have done steps #2 and #3 first, and remembering to use the
principle mentioned in step #1, i.e. make certain all the connections
are in a straight line.

5.	If the problem is in the keel extension bar.  This is also an area
that gets stuck but seems less problematic.  This counter-intuitive
because the keelbar is most definitely sitting in bilge water and sand
more often than the chine bars.  There is so much length to the keelbar
as opposed to the relatively shorter chine slider that you do have more
of a chance to get a grip here for twisting and forcing the device
open.  Basically follow all the steps above, especially the banging with
a hammer and aluminum sacrificial plate.

Other Remedies
	I have heard of a case where a blowtorch was used to sweat the tubes
and expand them enough to start rotating them, etc.  This, however, has
worked with the K-1 which has a different grade and thickness of
aluminum from that in the K-Light.  So it most likely won’t work without
doing damage.  And in any case when using such a radical device as a
blowtorch you have to take all sorts of precautions to protect the skin.
	If none of the steps above work, then it is time for surgery.  In order
to reduce the chance of damaging the skin it is best to just make one
cut in the stuck area.  There are different arguments on which tube to
cut.  But it seems that the best option would be to cut on the tube end
against whose rivet stopper the slider is abutting.  Cut just behind
that rivet stopper.  Once the frame half has been removed from the boat,
you could work on the end still holding the slider using a vise and
workbench; with greater leverage you may be able to loosen it.  This
would mean you only have to replace the end that was cut.
	By the way, if you have several stuck stringers, don’t set out to cut
at them all at once.  Getting one stringer free by cutting may loosen up
the frame enough that another frozen area may be loosened using the less
radical steps covered earlier.  u



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