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From: <HenryHast_at_aol.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Tents
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 19:09:56 EDT
In a message dated 10/17/00 6:16:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
Gypsykayak_at_aol.com writes:

<< 
 Am now going through packing anxiety for the 5-days on the Suwannee River 
 trip at the beginning of November.  I succumbed to buying the Eureka! Zephyr 
 XT tent because I wanted the to-the-ground rainfly and vestibules.  Should 
 arrive tomorrow.
 
 BTW, the price at CampMor.com  was $139.99.  I called to see if it was on 
 sale and was told $119.99, which made the decision a bit easier.  When I 
 called a few minutes later they quoted the 139.99, after a mini-shit fit on 
 my part, he pressed some other buttons and I got the lower price.  
  >>

I'm in the process of buying a three season tent for kayaking camping, and 
would be interested in what other paddlewisers have and like.  Any 
suggestions about places to buy also appreciated.  Is anybody familiar with 
the Kelty Windfoil ultralight and the Kelty Zen tents?  Thanks  Hank
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From: MSN/RiDem <RiDem_at_email.msn.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Tents
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 19:58:39 -0400
Campmor has given me the sale price on an item  as late as 14 days after the
original purchase. They have also replaced  a defective piece of equipment
bought in May, for a July-August Arctic Expedition, and mailed back to them
in September. They even paid the return postage. They are pretty decent
retailers. Because of this, and past experiences with them, I always
recommend them to folks who are a bit nervous about shopping by mail/WWW/
etc.




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From: Dave Kruger <dkruger_at_pacifier.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Tents
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 19:15:40 -0700
HenryHast_at_aol.com wrote:

> I'm in the process of buying a three season tent for kayaking camping, and
> would be interested in what other paddlewisers have and like.  Any
> suggestions about places to buy also appreciated.  Is anybody familiar with
> the Kelty Windfoil ultralight and the Kelty Zen tents?  Thanks  Hank

Hank, I'm also in the market for a compact tent -- for use in our rainy climate
here in the Northwest -- and I looked closely at the Zen and a couple similar
ones.  Ultimately, I decided to wait for a sale on one of the smaller ("2
person") North Face tents -- like the very old NF "Tadpole" I currently own.

What I did not like about the Zen:

1. Not free standing.

2. The rain fly opens over the door such that if it is raining, you will get
water inside the tent.

My Tadpole is free standing, and the vestibule reaches out far enough in front
of the inside tent that #2 above is not a problem.

I own a NF Nebula, which is a much larger two-person tent, and its vestibule
design provides a large footprint in front of a nearly vertical door, such that
entering the tent will not get water inside the tent during a rain.

Problem #2 above is endemic among the smaller two-person tents I have looked
at.  The only one I have seen so far that seemed to avoid #2 is the MEC Tarn 2.

MEC is on the web at:  www.mec.ca

-- 
Dave Kruger
Astoria, OR

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From: Ashton Treadway <ashton_at_tundra.org>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Tents
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 01:50:26 -0400 (EDT)
Personally, I *lerve* my Sierra Designs Meteor Light CD. Sets up in
minutes, lots of ventilation but seals up nicely with the rainfly,
spacious enough to hold a 6'3" guy and a 5'2" woman with two backpacks
comfortably for a few days, and packs small and reasonably light.

.ashton

On Tue, 17 Oct 2000 HenryHast_at_aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 10/17/00 6:16:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
> Gypsykayak_at_aol.com writes:
> 
> << 
>  Am now going through packing anxiety for the 5-days on the Suwannee River 
>  trip at the beginning of November.  I succumbed to buying the Eureka! Zephyr 
>  XT tent because I wanted the to-the-ground rainfly and vestibules.  Should 
>  arrive tomorrow.
>  
>  BTW, the price at CampMor.com  was $139.99.  I called to see if it was on 
>  sale and was told $119.99, which made the decision a bit easier.  When I 
>  called a few minutes later they quoted the 139.99, after a mini-shit fit on 
>  my part, he pressed some other buttons and I got the lower price.  
>   >>
> 
> I'm in the process of buying a three season tent for kayaking camping, and 
> would be interested in what other paddlewisers have and like.  Any 
> suggestions about places to buy also appreciated.  Is anybody familiar with 
> the Kelty Windfoil ultralight and the Kelty Zen tents?  Thanks  Hank

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From: Roger Voeller <rogervoe_at_mindspring.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Tents
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 05:49:35 -0400
I have a Kelty Zen tent and use it a lot for solo kayak camping. A couple of
comments.

1 - It isn't self supporting (that is you have to stake it down). This is
sometimes difficult on the rocky northeastern North America shores and Baja
beaches where I've used it.

2 - It is pretty small for two people - just barely enough room to lay out
the sleeping bags.

But it is small and light, is plenty waterproof, and if staked down - sheds
wind very well.

When I'm going on shorter trips where storage space in the boat isn't so
critical, I usually take a larger self supporting dome tent I have (from
Eureka - about 10 years old.



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