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From: Whyte, David <DHW_at_Mail.amsa.gov.au>
subject: [Paddlewise] Canadian Sea kayaker mag
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 15:10:59 +1100
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From: Doug Lloyd [mailto:dlloyd_at_telus.net]
On another topic, has anyone heard about a new paddling magazine coming
out soon, from Canada? It is supposed to be the same people who produce
"Rapid" magazine (devoted to river kayakers). I heard the name might me
"Touring" or some such thing. Hey, maybe they pay better than writing on
PW :-)
BC'in Ya
Doug Lloyd >>

Ah but Doug there won't be the same prestige as writing for Paddlewise

David


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From: Doug Lloyd <dlloyd_at_telus.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Canadian Sea kayaker mag
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 22:02:52 -0700
"Whyte, David" wrote:

> <snip>
>
> Ah but Doug there won't be the same prestige as writing for Paddlewise
>

Speaking of prestige and writing in the same breath, if anyone on the list has
access to the latest Wavelength Magazine issue, Doug Simpson has a great little
piece about the brief history of his company, Feathercraft (available on-line,
but requires a PDF download unfortunately - until next month). He talks about
how his company made up mock kayaks with see-through materials in order to study
the flow of water over the skin and so help design boats (how about that Mr
Winters?). He also goes on to defend his use of aluminum as a frame material,
but sites the fact that there is "some question about the advisability of using
this material in a sea environment". He specifically references New york as the
source of some of this derision. Is that you ralph? Whoever is bad mouthing
aluminum better not let our Bob Meyers hear them :-).

I met Doug  S. years ago for the first time, testing a proto type during the
very early eighties. He was out doing some long-range paddling, testing a new
hull design. Now _he is_ a noteworthy "Doug" if there is one. I can think of a
few more kayak personalities that rarely write articles. I wish more would.

Anyhow, I'm looking forward to the next Sea Kayaker magazine issue due out any
moment. I understand you have a picture on the front cover. Congratulations
David! They are doing a bit of a feature on paddling down-under.

BTW David, our local newspaper cartoon artist had a drawing a couple of weeks
back of an Olympic kayak race. The paddlers were paddling with the boats
upside-down, and the caption read above the spectators: "Oh, that's the Aussie
team". :-)

Cheers,

Doug


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From: Whyte, David <DHW_at_Mail.amsa.gov.au>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Canadian Sea kayaker mag
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 16:21:27 +1100
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From: Doug Lloyd [mailto:dlloyd_at_telus.net]
Anyhow, I'm looking forward to the next Sea Kayaker magazine issue due out
any
moment. I understand you have a picture on the front cover. Congratulations
David! They are doing a bit of a feature on paddling down-under.>>

Actually SK cropped me out of the photo as it was in horizontal format. The
orginal shows the wave about to break over the top of the front of my kayak
as I sat there to take the photo, Had my camera and paddle tethered though
as I was prepared to get dumped to take the photo.
 
Paddle lesches in the surf now that usually starts a debate

BTW David, our local newspaper cartoon artist had a drawing a couple of
weeks
back of an Olympic kayak race. The paddlers were paddling with the boats
upside-down, and the caption read above the spectators: "Oh, that's the
Aussie
team". :-)

Our kayak team didn't do that well this olympics

Cheers
David 
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From: John Winters <735769_at_ican.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Canadian Sea kayaker mag
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 07:58:46 -0400
Doug wrote:
>
> Speaking of prestige and writing in the same breath, if anyone on the list
has
> access to the latest Wavelength Magazine issue, Doug Simpson has a great
little
> piece about the brief history of his company, Feathercraft (available
on-line,
> but requires a PDF download unfortunately - until next month). He talks
about
> how his company made up mock kayaks with see-through materials in order to
study
> the flow of water over the skin and so help design boats (how about that
Mr
> Winters?).

Always nice to hear about people using more than intuition to design boats.
Did he mention how he "visualized" the flow? Some methods work quite well
and some don't. For example, using tufts of wool taped to the bottom gives
deceptive results particularly where the boundary layer gets thick enough to
'bury" most of the tuft. Also the wool seems to adhere to some surfaces
better than others.

In 1972 I used windows in the bottom of a Star boat to study the effects of
different wetting agents and waxes. This was how I learned  that some waxes
cause bubbles to adhere to the bottom which increased the surface roughness
(BUMMER).  I injected dye in front of the window in two locations and
compared the speed that the dyes crossed the windows. LUX liquid detergent
gave the best results. Please don't go smearing LUX on your boat. Aside from
the pollution it washes off quite quickly.

Probably the most useful information (for a folding boat) would have to do
with flow over the chines. I have found that deep forward chines seem to
increase resistance slightly (less than the repeatable accuracy of the tank
or program) so unless one deals with odd shapes it looks like one can put
the chines almost anywhere without doing too  much harm.

 The Nordic Folkboat people used to  argue the merits of lapstrake versus
carvel construction since boats built with both constructions raced
together. Each side vehemently argued for his preferred construction. I
think that, in the end, they had to agree that sails and sailors made more
difference except in light air when the added wetted surface of the
lapstrake boats made them less competitive.

Cheers,

John Winters
Web site address http://home.ican.net/~735769



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