The expression "bombproof" implies that a roll is absolutely failproof. In my experience, there ain't no such thing as a failproof roll, and that the more one doesn't want to swim in a particular river, the better the chances are of it happening! :>) tina Rick Sylvia wrote: >> Yes - acquiring and honing a "bombproof" roll (I'm trying to come up >> with a non-military replacement phrase for this. I'll let you know >> when I think of a good one) may take time and concentration, but what >> would you rather be doing during that time? > With the ever growing popularity and importance of technology, how >about sharing "bug free" or "bug proof"? It's not a "sexy" phrase, but it >gets the point across. ------------------------------------------------------------------- _____________ / -()-()-()-()-()- / I / -()-()-()-()-()- / / /___________/ / I___________I / What? No Bento Buggy on weekends this summer? See what the bento-meister's been up to at..... http://www.pcez.com/BentoBuggy/bevents.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------- *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 10/6/00 1:39:36 AM, tina_at_bentobuggy.com writes: << The expression "bombproof" implies that a roll is absolutely failproof. In my experience, there ain't no such thing as a failproof roll, and that the more one doesn't want to swim in a particular river, the better the chances are of it happening! :>) >> Well,...... Some bombs are bigger than others.... How should a modest paddler refer to a 99.9% reliable roll if not "Bombproof"? We can (and do) split some mighty fine hairs around here. Semantics aside, I would consider anything over 95% reliable a great roll and somewhere around 99% reliable (in combat conditions) can be considered "Bombproof" thought not "Thermo Nuclear Tested". Remember, it's only an opinion. Everyone has a different take on the subject, but I bet there are several if not several dozen list members with "Bombproof" rolls as I define "Bombproof". Sorry for the military language, but it seems to be the common descriptive language these days in the USA. Jed *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 06:10:10PM -0700, Tina wrote: > The expression "bombproof" implies that a roll is absolutely failproof. In > my experience, there ain't no such thing as a failproof roll, and that the > more one doesn't want to swim in a particular river, the better the chances > are of it happening! :>) Do I swim? Sometimes, yes: got ripped out of my boat on the Deschutes two years ago despite trying very hard to stay in it. Sploosh. Splutter. Thud. Thud thud. Cough. Oops! But I have enough confidence in my roll (mostly because I practice it under varied circumstances) to put myself in situations where a swim could mean loss of equipment and/or serious injury. I believe... I *have* to believe that I (a) I will not flip and (b) if I flip, I will roll because if I stop believing those two things, I will hesitate -- and that is definitely not a good thing. To put it another way: I do my hesitating before I get to the river ("Do I really want to run this?") and before I enter the rapid ("Do I want to walk around this one?"). Once I'm in it, I can't afford to hesitate, and in order to do that, I need to believe in my roll... and in order to do that *that*, I have to practice it thousands of times. Which is exactly what I've done, and will probably continue to do as long as I paddle. I'm *not* claiming that I or anyone else should believe they'll never ever miss. But I suppose what I'm advocating is that a Saturday morning spent doing 100 rolls may be a better investment than a piece of gear. Or, more generally, that OVER-reliance on gear to either help make the roll or compensate when it's blown is not as good an idea as a heck of a lot of practice. ---Rsk *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced/forwarded outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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