I don't disagree that there might be some minor benefits to a capsizing paddler to have a large backside of the curve (or a even a flatter top of the curve that might provide a slight warning). What I'm saying is with regards to what an expert considers "secondary stability" in a kayak these things are irrelevant, not that they are irrelevant all the time and for all reasons. Further, I think an expert would prefer to keep the curve increasing at a constant or increasing rate up to a point out beyond where he wants to lean a kayak (without having to rely on a brace) rather than have the curve be steeper and then break at an angle less than the angle he wants to be able lean it (the steeper curve would have to break earlier--at the "risk" point--in order to flatten out the top of the curve and keep the same maximum righting moment). The designer's task is to find the shape that will give the most security for the paddler (the kayak is aimed at) and still keep the drag of that kayak as low as possible given that level of security. -----------original message-------- >>>>>>.Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 16:04:19 -0500 From: Nick Schade <schade_at_guillemot-kayaks.com> Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] 2ndry stability (and more) Just to fill in with some of the back channel response to Matt's comments: I am not ready to eliminate the backside of the curve yet. Even if you go over the hump with some momentum, the backside of the curve is absorbing energy and offers at least the theoretical potential of slowing you down. Also if you do stop your momentum by bracing, the stability shown on the backside of the curve will be enough to right you without additional help from a brace. It may be a slow recovery, but it will happen as long as no other forces come to push you back down. The area under the curve from zero to the angle of heel is the potential energy built up that is ready to push the boat back upright. If boat reaches the point but is still moving, it still has kinetic energy left to absorb. If the area remaining on the curve is less than the kinetic energy of the rotating boat, it will go over, otherwise it will stop. A boat with a lot of area under the backside of the curve will be able to absorb a tipping hit better and will require less bracing energy to stop the tendency to capsize. This points to the backside of the curve being more important in dynamic situations where some capsizing impulse has to be absorbed. Nick<<<<<<< Matt Broze http://www.marinerkayaks.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************Received on Wed Nov 22 2000 - 23:34:50 PST
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