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From: E. Sullivan <sullivaned_at_pop.mts.kpnw.org>
subject: [Paddlewise] Cheese and warm feet
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 09:06:33 -0800
I like warm feet. What are Chotas? Goretex sox under booties
work pretty well, but my feet could be warmer.


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From: Dave Kruger <dkruger_at_pacifier.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Cheese and warm feet
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 11:32:38 -0800
"E. Sullivan" wrote:
> 
> I like warm feet. What are Chotas? Goretex sox under booties
> work pretty well, but my feet could be warmer.

Fleece-lined neoprene booties that run calf-length, with a strap closure at the
top.

Keeps feet dry.  At Alder Creek (http://www.aldercreek.com/), REI, and NWOC
(http://www.nwoc.com/).

Expensive, but worth it.  I got some of the lesser style (without laces) at REI
on sale.  I'd spring for the lace-equipped ones, 'cause the ones I have do not
have much arch support or ankle support.

-- 
Dave Kruger
Astoria, OR

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From: Melissa Reese <melissa_at_bonnyweeboaty.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Cheese and warm feet
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 12:03:26 -0800
Ed(?) Sullivan wrote:

>>I like warm feet. What are Chotas? Goretex sox under booties
work pretty well, but my feet could be warmer.<<


Chota, in addition to sandals, booties,etc., makes a nice 
over-the-calf fleece lined neoprene Mukluk.  Here's their web site:

 http://www.chotaoutdoorgear.com/ 














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From: <JSpinner_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Cheese and warm feet
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 18:19:01 EST
In a message dated 11/29/00 2:45:21 PM, sullivaned_at_pop.mts.kpnw.org writes:

<< What are Chotas? >>

a brand of boots/booties as well as gloves and other stuff they make.

Joan Spinner
who loves their stuff

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From: John Fereira <jaf30_at_cornell.edu>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Cheese and warm feet
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 07:55:29 -0500
At 06:19 PM 11/29/00 -0500, JSpinner_at_aol.com wrote:
>In a message dated 11/29/00 2:45:21 PM, sullivaned_at_pop.mts.kpnw.org writes:
>
><< What are Chotas? >>
>
>a brand of boots/booties as well as gloves and other stuff they make.

Check them out at: http://chotaoutdoorgear.com/wsports.html


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From: <LedJube_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Cheese and warm feet
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 18:16:52 EST
In a message dated 11/29/00 7:35:46 PM, sullivaned_at_pop.mts.kpnw.org writes:

<< I like warm feet. What are Chotas? Goretex sox under booties
work pretty well, but my feet could be warmer. >>

If you wear good insulation beneath the GTX socks and wear loose boots like 
Chota's mukluks you should be able to find a nice dry and warm place to rest 
your feet.  I missed the whole "Cheese" thing. Do we really want cheese and 
feet in the same subject header?

Good Luck!
Jed

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From: Joe Pylka <pylka_at_castle.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Cheese and warm feet
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 17:07:27 -0500
>
>Fleece-lined neoprene booties that run calf-length, with a strap closure at
the
>top.
>Expensive, but worth it.  I got some of the lesser style (without laces) at
REI
>on sale.  I'd spring for the lace-equipped ones, 'cause the ones I have do
not
>have much arch support or ankle support.

        I solved the arch support by putting in Vasque hiking boot inserts.
Solved that problem, plus stiffens the sole so I don't feel the rocks so
much.

JP


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From: anomad <anomad_at_excite.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Cheese and warm feet
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 07:53:05 -0800 (PST)
Am I the only person that uses rubber boots and a pair of good wool socks? 
Not the greatest for swimming, but certainly warm and dry for launching and
landing.  

Somewhere I heard about a paddler that took the foot/ankle part of a rubber
boot chopped off the top and had drysuit material sewn (waterproof
attachment) to it coming up to his knees to reduce the bulk and still have
dry feet.  with a good shockcord at the top you could keep splashes out of
the top too.

Of course there is the old New England saying, "If your feet are cold, put
on your hat".





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From: Bill Bradshaw <bradshaw_at_arctic.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Cheese and warm feet
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 13:42:06 -0900
I use Xtratuf rubber boots and wool socks.  I was screwing around this
summer and did a wet exit.  I now have one right boot and two left boots.  I
guess you figured out I had to buy a new pair of boots :-).  Hopefully if I
loose another boot it will be the left one.

<Bill>

Brought to you from beautiful Unalaska/Dutch Harbor, Alaska.
N 53°51.140'  W 166°30.228'



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From: <LedJube_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Cheese and warm feet
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 13:46:09 EST
In a message dated 11/30/00 4:44:52 PM, anomad_at_excite.com writes:

<< Somewhere I heard about a paddler that took the foot/ankle part of a rubber
boot chopped off the top and had drysuit material sewn (waterproof
attachment) to it coming up to his knees to reduce the bulk and still have
dry feet.  with a good shockcord at the top you could keep splashes out of
the top too. >>

    "Derek the Great" has a pair of Kokotat whirlpool bibs with Wellington 
(rubber) boots attached just below the knee. Resulting in a completely 
waterproof system. Rubber boots (not sealed to the suit) are great except for 
two things: they become a hazard when they fill with water during a swim and 
they are a bitch for those of us with larger feet to fit into low volume 
boats.

Jed

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From: Michael Daly <michaeldaly_at_home.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Cheese and warm feet
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 21:17:08 -0500
From: "Dave Kruger" <dkruger_at_pacifier.com>

> "E. Sullivan" wrote:
> > 
> > I like warm feet. What are Chotas? Goretex sox under booties
> > work pretty well, but my feet could be warmer.
> 
> Fleece-lined neoprene booties that run calf-length, with a strap closure at the
> top.
> 
> Keeps feet dry.  At Alder Creek (http://www.aldercreek.com/), REI, and NWOC
> (http://www.nwoc.com/).
> 

I should mention that MEC sells an almost-clone of the basic Chotas that they call 
"Swellies".   They are basically an over-the-calf reef boot.  They do not have fleece
lining, just the regular fuzzy stuff you find in reef boots.  The soles are soft like a 
reef boot.  They do share the uncoated neoprene collar around the top and the
webbing and fastex buckle closure that the Chotas have.

I haven't dunked them yet, so I can't say how much they'd flood if the closure is 
cinched in.  They could use an insole to stiffen the sole and make them more
comfy on rocky beaches.

The good news is that they are cheap - C$35 or C$37 (forget which - probably the
latter).  In US$ that'll soon be about $2.00 if the C$ keeps its current course. ( US$25
otherwise).

Mike


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From: <HenryHast_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Cheese and warm feet
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 00:28:51 EST
In a message dated 11/30/00 9:34:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
michaeldaly_at_home.com writes:

<< 
 I should mention that MEC sells an almost-clone of the basic Chotas that 
they call 
 "Swellies".   They are basically an over-the-calf reef boot.  They do not 
have fleece
 lining, just the regular fuzzy stuff you find in reef boots.  The soles are 
soft like a 
 reef boot.  They do share the uncoated neoprene collar around the top and the
 webbing and fastex buckle closure that the Chotas have.
  >>


What's MEC?  Thanks, Hank

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From: Michael Daly <michaeldaly_at_home.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Cheese and warm feet
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 21:37:52 -0500
From: <HenryHast_at_aol.com>


> In a message dated 11/30/00 9:34:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
> michaeldaly_at_home.com writes:
> 
> << 
>  I should mention that MEC sells an almost-clone of the basic Chotas that 
> they call 
>  "Swellies".  [...]
>   >>
> What's MEC?  Thanks, Hank
> 

Mountain Equipment Co-op.   www.mec.ca


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From: <volinjo_at_juno.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Cheese and warm feet
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 23:33:50 -0500
of course, if you have booties attached toyour drysuit this whole
discussion is moot.

Joan

> Somewhere I heard about a paddler that took the foot/ankle part of a 
> rubber
> boot chopped off the top and had drysuit material sewn (waterproof
> attachment) to it coming up to his knees to reduce the bulk and 
> still have
> dry feet.  with a good shockcord at the top you could keep splashes 
> out of
> the top too.
> 

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