[Paddlewise] Quiet Guilt

> kevin_at_yourplanetearth.org wrote:
> ...I personally feel a lot of guilt
> > from driving all the time to go kayaking, and I
> wonder if any others on this
> > list feel the same way?

Nah, used to when I was young and idealistic. 
Bothered me alot.  Made me feel bad.  Got over it. 
Feel better now.  Besides, you have enough guilt for
both of us, so I don't have to feel any.

> On 06-Dec-2000 Bob Myers wrote:

> ...Since we all drive cars, we all share the guilt
when
> we go kayaking (except for
> those wonderful few who manage to do without). 

Thanks for not leaving me out.

> ...when autos
> are systematically destroying vast ecosystems on a
> global scale. 

True, but what are you gonna do?

> We have only
> just begun to see the impacts of global warming (the
> *ahem* tip of the iceberg,
> if you will :)  I think most people are living in a
> dream world if they are not
> genuinely concerned about the terrible impact of
> global warming.... 

Well then, somebody wake me up.  
You may take some comfort in that for every scientist
advocating a concern for global warming, they're is
another scientist who says there is no such thing 
> 

> 
> Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000  From: obrien
<obrien_at_proaxis.com>
 
> I don't have the numbers at my finger tips, but
> driving older less efficient 
> autos contribute a disproportionate am't of
> pollutants. ...  Now may be  the time to get more
>bang for our buck by buying and
> retiring the dirtiest autos.  

I'd be glad to sell anyone my '90 Ford 444 c.i. diesel
van for a price that will allow me to purchase a
newer, more efficient full size van.  I don't care
what they do with it after they buy it.  Would I have
to give up the heavy deer-shedder bumpers?   

> Some scientests are now saying that corals may be
> largely gone in 25 years
> due to global
> warming!!!!  

If we lose coral, it will be due to pollution, not
global warming.  

>....  Warm currents in
> 1997 disrupted
> the food chain resulting in a shift in feeding
> habits of key preditors
> which saw the
> otter as suddenly worth their effort.  Global
> warming seems to be here and
> impacting
> sea kayaking,too.  

That was a short term phenomona.  There is a normal
variation in short term weather patterns.  It has
nothing to do with global warming.

> I use a push mower and put in an ecolawn.

What is an ecolawn?

> I support ending gas subsidies and therefore
> pollution subsidies.  

What subsidies?  What gas are you talking about?  The
gas I know about is heavily taxed by the Govenment,
not subsidized.

> OK, I'll get off my soap box now and go to bed.

Good night all.


> Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 08:31:39 -0500
> From: "RiDem" <RiDem_at_email.msn.com>
> Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Kayaker's guilt (was:Jet
> Ski Ban Proposal - Ind
> 
> You haven't addressed the noise   pollution of jet
> skies  though. Cars
> remain on land, it is possible to escape them. As I
> said in my earlier post,
> what is so difficult to fathom about setting aside a
> small area with
> "natural noises", not man made one?

"Sounds" good.  Don't forget to restrict the airspace.
> 
> Right know I am listening to my neighbors snow
> blower (0.5 inches of snow
> fell last night). The leaves have been off the trees
> for the last  2 weeks,
> so the leaf-blowers have subsided. The daily morning
> buzz of lawn mowers is
> 4 months in the future, and it has gotten too cold
> for the kids to leave
> their car windows open as their vehicle shakes with
> their booming sound
> system.
> Rich

Try living in NYC.  Half the time it's hard to carry
on a normal cell phone conversation.  Whatcha gonna
do?
Someday I'm going to retire and have a nice, quiet, 
ostrich ranch.

Tom Dowling
Love the Smell of Diesel in the Morning


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