Alex Ferguson <a.ferguson_at_chem.canterbury.ac.nz> pointed out that it bears to check carefully how effective rudders really are. The degree of immersion is certainly one important factor. The former importer of Valley Kayaks in Germany once mentioned to me in passing that he had seen good side mounted skeg systems (and possibly rudder systems) somewhere "down under". Their advantage lies in the fact that they tend to be lifted clear of the water less when paddling in short chop and that they are more accesible even from the cockpit under way. Has anyone heard of these? Ralph C. Hoehn Ralph_at_PouchBoats.com www.PouchBoats.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Did John Winters move his website? I'm getting a 404 when I hit the bookmark, and he hasn't posted here in a couple months. -- Wes *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 16:40:20, Wes Boyd wrote: >Did John Winters move his website? I'm getting a 404 when I hit the >bookmark, and he hasn't posted here in a couple months. > Same here, so I looked around and at http://www.greenval.com/directory.html there's this link: mailto:jwinters_at_onlink.net Maybe that'll lead you to him ;] --allan *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
>The former importer of Valley Kayaks in Germany once mentioned to me in >passing that he had seen good side mounted skeg systems (and possibly >rudder systems) somewhere "down under". Their advantage lies in the fact >that they tend to be lifted clear of the water less when paddling in short >chop and that they are more accesible even from the cockpit under way. Has >anyone heard of these? > >Ralph C. Hoehn Ahh, the Southern Viking rudder by Don Currie. Yes, they were (are) available as retrofit items for Skerrays or anyother kayak if someone wants to fit a side mount rudder. Don's reason for designing it was that mounting further foreward meant less likelyhood of the blade coming out of the water with a shorter blade and it stowed along the side of the hull making it less prone to damage. When I first saw it I pointed out that rudders should be mounted on the steerboard side, not the port side. "Obvious, " he said, after a moment's pause, "The water goes down the plug hole the opposite way in the southern hemisphere. At this point I christened it the Southern Viking Rudder. It's retraction motion is a bit like half the undercarriage of a P40 Kittyhawk retracting. There is only one extra short bit of string needed to make it all work. Alex . . Alex (Sandy) Ferguson Chemistry Department University of Canterbury New Zealand *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
>>"Obvious, " he said, after a moment's pause, "The water goes down the plug hole the opposite way in the southern hemisphere.>> Oh, dear. I don't think it does, actually. There is no significant Coriolis effect. Water goes down the plughole whichever way the turbulence in the bathwater sends it around. But I love running the experiment. Regards, Peter Treby 37º 42' S 145º 08' E *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
AF - > >>"Obvious, " he said, after a moment's pause, "The water goes down the plug >hole the opposite way in the southern hemisphere.>> PT - >Oh, dear. I don't think it does, actually. There is no significant Coriolis >effect. Water goes down the plughole whichever way the turbulence in the >bathwater sends it around. But I love running the experiment. Just when you have a good story, some "smartass Aussie" comes along and ruins it........ wouldn't you know it..... typical underarm bowling.... Alex . . Alex (Sandy) Ferguson Chemistry Department University of Canterbury New Zealand *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Alex said >>Just ....... wouldn't you know it..... typical underarm bowling....>> Alex 90% of this list wont know what that statement is referring to David Oztraileea *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
It has to do with cricket (ah I can hear the yawns already). Many years ago Australia was playing New Zealand and there was one ball left to bowl. THe kiwis needed to hit a six off the ball (like a home run in baseball) to win. A difficult task but not impossible. SO Australia bowled underam IE along the ground, so the kiwi couldn't hit a six therefore Australia won. This was not an illegal move it was very unsporting and caused a HUGE diplomatic row between NZ and Australia and it has never been forgotten. I for a long time thought water went down the plug hole one way in the north and another in the south but recently some-one (Not Peter) told me that was so. Cyclones (or Hurricanes) go one way in the south and another in the North David Australia -----Original Message----- From: rdempsey [mailto:rdempsey_at_CALAMITY.WYOMING.COM] Sent: Tuesday, 23 January 2001 2:53 PM To: Whyte, David; Alex Ferguson; PaddleWise_at_paddlewise.net Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Rudders and wind ... skegs Oh well dear, you might at least "try" to inform us winter-locked Northern Hemispheric life-forms, exactly what was meant by underarm bowling. BTW.. did Coriolis ever write a book about his observations? (DON'T REPLY to THAT question, please!!!!) I have never considered the fact that water may swirl one way in OZ, and another way in the USA. But I do suppose it is arguable. Rich See our canoe tripping website http://communities.msn.com/RichWendysAwayFromHomePage ----- Original Message ----- From: Whyte, David <david.whyte_at_amsa.gov.au> To: Alex Ferguson <a.ferguson_at_chem.canterbury.ac.nz>; <PaddleWise_at_paddlewise.net> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 10:23 PM Subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Rudders and wind ... skegs > Alex said >>Just ....... wouldn't you know it..... typical underarm > bowling....>> > > > Alex > > 90% of this list wont know what that statement is referring to > > David > Oztraileea *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
>Oh well dear, you might at least "try" to inform us winter-locked Northern >Hemispheric life-forms, exactly what was meant by underarm bowling. > > > Alex said >>Just ....... wouldn't you know it..... typical underarm > > bowling....>> > > > 90% of this list won't know what that statement is referring to > > > > David > > Oztraileea For the ignorance northeners, a certain cricket match between the two countries (Australia and NZ) was finished by the Aussie bowler bowling the last ball underarm instead of overarm making it unplayable. Unsporting, something Kiwis try not to let the Aussies forget - it was a suitably rude retort to PT (sorry mate (no I'm not)) :-) Now all has been revealed - back to the kayaking.... One other thing, Aussies claim all sorts of NZ things as theirs, pop groups, desserts, etc., etc.. We don't let on that Paul Caffyn was actually born in Australia. Alex . . Alex (Sandy) Ferguson Chemistry Department University of Canterbury New Zealand *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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