Hi Paddlers For a long time I've wanted to find an alternative to my neopren shorts for a number of reasons: o It's no laugh to put on neopren shorts on day two a trip, especially during winter. o After a couple of days paddling, the skin starts to get irritated from the 'environment'. o Once wet, it takes nothing short of a heatwave in the evening to dry out the shorts. Now I've seen two alternative offerings which looks interesting: Navarro from Canada makes paddling shorts in so called Nav-skin. A number of companies uses Polartec 'Aqua Shell' for their shorts. Any experience with these? Especially as related to multiday trips(anything goes on day 1). best regards Peter *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Sat, 17 Mar 2001, Peter Unold wrote: > For a long time I've wanted to find an alternative to my neopren > shorts for a number of reasons: I love my fuzzy rubber from Rapidstyle. I don't know if it'll dry overnight in really humid weather, but it's Polartec inside, so it drys quick. Even damp, it's not noxious to put on. WyomingWear, REI, and Patagucci also have it, but Rapidstyle is the best. Steve Cramer *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
----Original Message----- From: Peter Unold [mailto:pjunold_at_daimi.au.dk] Hi Paddlers For a long time I've wanted to find an alternative to my neopren shorts for a number of reasons:>> Peter I know that feeling of putting cold wet neopren on the next morning and would also be interested in alternatives. I remember one morning when it had been raining all night and my neopren was wet and cold so I heated up some water and poured it over the shorts then put them on. For the first few minutes it was very nice and by the time it had cooled down it at least matched my body temperature. David *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I am using a short and a balaclava (hood) by Reed (UK). It is called chill-cheater (haven't got their URL handy, should be something like www.chill-cheater.co.uk or .com). It is a polyester, rubberized on the outside and similar to 2 or 2,5 mm neopren. Especially the hood is working perfect: I had been using it for rolling and reentry practice in the Irish Sea (Anglesey, Wales) in early April and never felt cold. I prefer it very much to neopren since it stretches and if turned inside-out, it is usually drying fast. David wrote: > I remember one > morning when it had been raining all night and my neopren was wet and > cold so I heated up some water and poured it over the shorts then put > them on. For the first few minutes it was very nice and by the time it > had cooled down it at least matched my body temperature. I did that last November on a three-day-trip at the Baltic Sea. In the morning, just before the put-in, my feet (in neopren socks and neopren shoes) were so cold I poured tea over them. It worked for a while until we got into the boats (where my feet usually warm up quite fast). Marian Marian Gunkel, Berlin, Germany www.mariangunkel.de *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I was checking out the chillcheater suits which, by the way, are at www.chillcheater.com and was wondering if anyone has found anything similar here in the Good Ol' US of A? It looks like just what I need for the chilly spring mornings paddling the rivers of the New Jersey Pine Barrens. As always, I appreciate any help the group can supply Christian Original Message ----- From: "Marian Gunkel" <marian-list_at_gmx.de> To: <paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net> Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 5:41 PM Subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Alternatives to neopren shorts? > I am using a short and a balaclava (hood) by Reed (UK). It is called > chill-cheater (haven't got their URL handy, should be something like > www.chill-cheater.co.uk or .com). *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Jo, my thoughts: > morning when it had been raining all night and my neopren was wet and > cold so I heated up some water and poured it over the shorts then put I think the wet shorts are more problematic when you get out of the boat and your legs and unprotected body will coll down by the wind. The VI-er act in the morning is hard, for sure. I heat up my body circulation and hurry up to get into the boat. With the winds problem, I always got a dry flleece pants in the front compartment or another protection I put over my wet shorts. Ready! Even in winter I paddle most time with a neoprene shorty. Normally no problem, as far you donīt stop the action. But its also a matter of habit. Remember to the cold water escapedes. But I like it, paddle with shorts. Not really overheated or cool. Good transpiration behaviour. As far, as you donīt come out of the kayak! In winter some people get a spontaneous cold when they see my shorts! Another problem is when your personal accumulator is empty. Then you are in really trouble. On a tour several years ago, I cooled down, nothings helps. Strong winds, almost 100 Km paddled so far (river), and I couldnīt warm up my body by paddling. There was nothing to burn, I eat a bar of chocolate and the motor restarts. bye Jochen *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Christian wrote: > I was checking out the chillcheater suits which, by the way, are at > www.chillcheater.com and was wondering if anyone has found anything > similar here in the Good Ol' US of A? >From what they say on their website, they happily deliver to oversea areas. Note that the prices are British pounds. And, you wouldn't find something similar that is a "100% British product" (I love the British way of understatement :-)! However, that (British made) was one of the reasons I bought it when I was living in the UK. Marian (always trying to buy locally produced stuff, no affiliation with chill-cheater-company Reed) Marian Gunkel, Berlin, Germany www.mariangunkel.de *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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