I got an e-mail from a friends in the UK who is a active sea and white water boater. He was explained that with the out break of foot and mouth has cut off access to many put-in's. Although I've been seeing things in the news about it, I didn't really realize how it would impact kayaking. He said most white water paddling has come to a stop in his area. I was wondering if any of our UK members could comment more on it. JFF *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Check out uk.rec.boats.paddle for a barrage of foot and mouth postings. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Hi I live in the NOrth West HIghlands of Scotland (Lochcarron, on the road to Skye), and work in Inverness (I am Director of the Deer Commission for Scotland, so Foot and Mouth has been keeping me busy for the past four weeks). I am purely a sea kayaker, but have spoken to local river and freshwater kayakers and canoeists. Foot and Mouth has not reached the Highlands (yet ... hoping it will remain like that), but even so access is very limited to river kayakers here and in the rest of Scotland: many put-ins are across fields with livestock, and farmers and crofters would be horrified if anyone crossed those areas at the moment. Access to fresh water lochs (lakes to non-Scots) is possible in some places, but as there are usually sheep grazing nearby the general view is that these put-ins should also be avoided. That leaves the sea! Many beaches are readily accessible, although again sheep grazing can be a problem in some cases. I am lucky since I live directly on Loch Carron and can launch from the beach: there are many such sites, especially in the Highlands. ALl this said, the fact is that Scotland is suffering badly from a downturn in tourism because of Foot and Mouth, and generally people are being encouraged to use the countryside (including the water) responsibly. The cardinal rule is ask locally about where it is O.K. to launch (you'd do that anyway, wouldn't you) and I think you will find most people are reasonable and willing to help. A new "Comeback to the Countryside" Code has been produced which aims to allow recreation without risking a spread of the infection. You can see it on my organisation's website(plug,plug) (go to the News section) at www.dcs.gov.uk. It has other useful links about access and foot and mouth. Hope this is useful. Nick -----Original Message----- From: owner-paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net [mailto:owner-paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net]On Behalf Of Joe Federici Sent: 26 March 2001 14:27 To: paddlewise Subject: [Paddlewise] foot and mouth in the UK I got an e-mail from a friends in the UK who is a active sea and white water boater. He was explained that with the out break of foot and mouth has cut off access to many put-in's. Although I've been seeing things in the news about it, I didn't really realize how it would impact kayaking. He said most white water paddling has come to a stop in his area. I was wondering if any of our UK members could comment more on it. JFF *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ *************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Would you gentlemen be so kind to explain us from the opposite part of the globe what is foot and mouth ??? is it a kind of USA's F.D.A. or something like that ??? Fernando Lopez Arbarello Kayak Argentina - Sea Kayaking Mailing List www.topica.com/lists/kayak_argentina kayak_argentina_at_uol.com.ar *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I found some good information about Foot and Mouth and how it relates to paddling on the BCU's UK web site. It is unrelated however to Hand, Foot and Mouth disease, which is somewhat common in the USA among kids. http://www.bcu.org.uk/events/bulletin.htm JFF >Would you gentlemen be so kind to explain us from the opposite part of the >globe what is foot and mouth ??? is it a kind of USA's F.D.A. or something >like that ??? *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 3/26/2001 3:05:15 PM Pacific Standard Time, kayak_argentina_at_uol.com.ar writes: > Would you gentlemen be so kind to explain us from the opposite part of the > globe what is foot and mouth ??? is it a kind of USA's F.D.A. or something > like that ??? > foot-and-mouth desease - an acute, contagious disease of cattle and deer, caused by a virus and characterized by fever and blisters in the mouth and around the hoofs; it can be transmitted to other domestic animals and man. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 3/26/01 9:35:35 PM, Niilus_at_aol.com writes: << it can be transmitted to other domestic animals and man >> >From what has been on tv this is rarely contagious to humans. >From Encarta "Foot-and-Mouth Disease, contagious febrile disease of animals and, rarely, humans. It is also called hoof-and-mouth disease. Caused by a virus, it affects cloven-hoofed animals such as cattle, swine, sheep, goats, and deer, often causing epidemics. " I hope that wasn't too much to grab. Joan Spinner *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Scientific advice in UK is that the disease does not affect humans (unless they are cloven-hooved!); however, the disease can be spread by humans to susceptible animals: the virus can survive on human breath for up to 27 hours, or can be carried on boots through the medium of dung, bodily fluids from animals, etc., where the virus can survive for days or even weeks given suitable environmental conditions. The virus survives best in the cold; it is easily killed by moderate heat or by conditions outside a relatively narrow pH range (about pH 6- 8): so suitable acidic disinfectants are very effective against it. Incidentally, as well as sheep, cattle, pigs, goats and deer, the disease affects such animals as elephants, giraffes etc. and, for some reason, hedgehogs. Animals can be vaccinated against a given strain, but then there are food regulation issues at stake. The virus is rather like influenza in that it can mutate very quickly, so new vaccines would have to be constantly developed to keep abreast of it. End of briefing: so far as kayakers and canoeists are concerned, the risk of them spreading the infection once on the water is virtually nil. The danger is during put-ins and take-outs. Of course, plenty of kayakers suffer from advanced foot-IN-mouth!! Nick -----Original Message----- From: owner-paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net [mailto:owner-paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net]On Behalf Of JSpinner_at_aol.com Sent: 27 March 2001 04:08 To: PaddleWise_at_paddlewise.net Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] foot and mouth in the UK In a message dated 3/26/01 9:35:35 PM, Niilus_at_aol.com writes: << it can be transmitted to other domestic animals and man >> >From what has been on tv this is rarely contagious to humans. >From Encarta "Foot-and-Mouth Disease, contagious febrile disease of animals and, rarely, humans. It is also called hoof-and-mouth disease. Caused by a virus, it affects cloven-hoofed animals such as cattle, swine, sheep, goats, and deer, often causing epidemics. " I hope that wasn't too much to grab. Joan Spinner *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
----- Original Message ----- From: <JSpinner_at_aol.com> To: <PaddleWise_at_paddlewise.net> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 12:08 AM Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] foot and mouth in the UK > In a message dated 3/26/01 9:35:35 PM, Niilus_at_aol.com writes: > > << it can be transmitted to other domestic animals and man >> > > >From what has been on tv this is rarely contagious to humans. .... snipped ) First of all, thank you all for the many replies explaining me what foot and mouth is. We know it here as "Fiebre Aftosa". We´ve been fighting it for years and years .. and finally last year Argentina was declared free of the disease. With this we qualified to sell meat to USA, UK and Europe. But unfortunatelly food an mouth reappeared this year, partially loosing the status. I say partially because f.and m. appeared only in a few provinces (states) and only these are banned for exportation. About wether it is contagious or not, I can say that you can think in Argentina as STEAK-LAND. We ( I personally ) use to eat meat twice a day in a way or another .... Yes, you can envy me ... we may have the worst economy of the "wish to be developed" world but here beef is still cheaper than pizza !!! And I´m not jocking ... Of course, I am proudly healthy. Best regards ! Fernando Lopez Arbarello Kayak Argentina - Sea Kayaking Mailing List www.topica.com/lists/kayak_argentina kayak_argentina_at_uol.com.ar *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Federici" <fedo_at_hudsonet.com> To: "paddlewise" <PaddleWise_at_paddlewise.net> Cc: "Beth Talbot" <etalbot_at_earthlink.net> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 7:26 PM Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] foot and mouth in the UK snip > It is unrelated however to Hand, Foot and Mouth disease, which is > somewhat common in the USA among kids. Just curious, any relationship to Foot in Mouth disease? ...Hardy, Har, Har! Man, that was cheap! I'm even embarrassed... *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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