Joan, Thanks for the input! Just playing devil's advocate for a moment ..., couldn't the paddle (or paddle halves) be mounted on the front of the boat to avoid the problems with re-entry from the rear? The long cylindrical clips, if sized properly, appear to me to be adequate to keep a paddle secure in even the harshest conditions. You could use 2 per paddle half. I would also use a tether from paddle(s) to boat. As far as drilling holes goes ..., doesn't bother me. Must be a "guy" thing. The reason I'm looking into this method of attachment is, the bungy cord storage arrangement scratches the deck when inserting and removing the paddle. Regards, Ron *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Here's something I've been intending to try: Paddles go forward of the cockpit, just ahead of the bungie arrangement on the foredeck. Blades are slipped into cordura pockets, maybe 6 in. deep, at the forward end. Shafts are held down with small bungie loops and olive cleats, or strips of velcro. Pockets and holddowns are pop-riveted to the deck. Sure, lot's of (small) holes, but it seems to be a pretty secure setup. If there's a risk of the paddles sliding backwards out of the pockets, then forwards out of the loops, the setup could be positioned so the paddle shafts at the ferrule lie JUST ahead of the foremost strand on the foredeck bungie net, which would act as a stopper should they begin to slip. Those with shiny gelcoat could apply a neat, round, adhesive something patch where the ends of the shafts lie. What's wrong with this? Just too ugly, or is there something really stupid I've overlooked? Mark _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
From: "Mark Paxton" <paxtonm_at_hotmail.com> > Pockets and holddowns are pop-riveted to the deck. > > Sure, lot's of (small) holes, I take advantage of the lifelines. I have made up some short bungies with nylon hooks on the ends. The hooks have a gate to keep them from working free. I use these to tie down stuff (like the spare paddle on the front deck) by wrapping the bungie around the shafts and clipping onto the lifelines. By putting one clip forward of the lifeline fairlead on, say, the starboard side and the other aft on the port side, the bungie doesn't tend to slide too far from where it belongs. I've been thinking of making some sort of pocket to have a "clean" paddle holder, using these clips. Someday... Mike *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Mark Paxton: ... Paddles go forward of the cockpit, just ahead of the bungie arrangement on the foredeck. Blades are slipped into cordura pockets, maybe 6 in. deep, at the forward end. Shafts are held down with small bungie loops and olive cleats, or strips of velcro. Pockets and holddowns are pop-riveted to the deck. ... Ralph Hoehn: Mark, what you describe is pretty much the way by which one or two (or more ;-) folding boat builders arrange things. Of course stitches in a fabric deck are less likely to leak than holes in a hard deck, but you'll easily cope with the latter, too. If you elasticate the entry holes of the pockets (vertically, NOT horizontally ... although you might even consider the former, depending on the shape of the blades you're attaching), this should go a long way towards holding the paddles in place very reliably. You might also want to construct a neoprene slipway into each pocket, which would serve the double purpose of protecting your deck and increasing friction -- not a problem for you sticking the blade in, but quite possibly a major aid in preventing water from tearing them back out ... unlikely as that is to begin with. Best regards, Ralph C. Hoehn Ralph_at_PouchBoats.com www.PouchBoats.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I don't know about the rest of the group but I just throw half of the paddle away and use a good C-1 paddle. Its a great relief to the arms after paddling 20+ miles to switch over. They are also good in high winds when the my wing gets caught and tries to twist me out of the boat. I come from a canoe (race) background and have no trouble using it. Will even have one as the spare on my surfski. After all they are only a spare. I use a Velcro attachment to hold on to my Kayak paddle when using the spare. rich *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 3/30/2001 9:03:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, michaeldaly_at_home.com writes: > I have made up some short bungies with nylon hooks on the ends. The hooks > have a gate to keep them from working free. I use these to tie down stuff > (like the spare paddle on the front deck) by wrapping the bungie around the > shafts and clipping onto the lifelines. Haven't watched this thread, but have you tried releasing your spare paddle quickly, Mike. Like maybe inverted, under water, when you'd really like to have it handy to roll up? With gloves on? And cold hands? Sounds like it'll stay on pretty well, but will it stay on too well? Jack --- who's still preoccupied with St. Clement's Island *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
From: <JCMARTIN43_at_aol.com> > In a message dated 3/30/2001 9:03:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, > michaeldaly_at_home.com writes: > > > I have made up some short bungies with nylon hooks on the ends. The hooks > > have a gate to keep them from working free. I use these to tie down stuff > > (like the spare paddle on the front deck) by wrapping the bungie around the > > shafts and clipping onto the lifelines. > > Haven't watched this thread, but have you tried releasing your spare paddle > quickly, Mike. Like maybe inverted, under water, when you'd really like to > have it handy to roll up? With gloves on? And cold hands? Sounds like > it'll stay on pretty well, but will it stay on too well? Tested thoroughly! The blades of the paddle are towards the cockpit. The spoon is concave down, so I can slide my hand under the blade easily. The blade end of the paddles are tucked under the permanent bungie (the criss-cross map holding stuff) furthest forward from the coaming. The wrapped bungie isn't that tight and is around the shaft alone. I always make sure that the paddle half without the button at midpoint is on the starboard side. This one will pull free more easily than the one with the button. I've practiced pulling it out and rolling up with the half paddle. Then I can either paddle with half or pull out the other half (now easier to pull due to the slack in the bungies) and join the two. I moved the spare paddle to the front deck a couple of years ago, because I'm not comfortable with twisting around and getting it off the rear deck, especially quickly while performing an inverted aqueous manoeuvre. In doing so, I ensured I wasn't going to compromise anything. Mike *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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