Dear friends: Can anyone with more experience state the relative pros and cons of butane vs. candle lanterns? We cannot get propane here, so that type is out. I'm looking for a big lantern, for family camping. REI has a 3-candle Uco Candleliern which looks pretty good... Thanks, Josh (who loves paddling his new turquoise Romany Explorer, and has discovered that he can paddle much faster with the Archipelago blade than the Nordkapp blade (Lendal)...) ============================================================================== Dr. Joshua Teitelbaum, Research Fellow Tel: [972] 3-640-6448 Moshe Dayan Center for Middle Eastern and Fax: [972] 3-641-5802 African Studies Tel Aviv University Ramat Aviv, Tel Aviv 69978 Israel E-mail:teitelba_at_post.tau.ac.il www.dayan.org ============================================================================== *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Josh wrote: "Can anyone with more experience state the relative pros and cons of butane vs. candle lanterns? We cannot get propane here, so that type is out. I'm looking for a big lantern, for family camping. REI has a 3-candle Uco Candleliern which looks pretty good..." I just bought myself a lantarn that vaporizes and burns Gasoline. Made by Coleman. It gives the same amount of light as a Butane lantern, but using a kind of fuel you can buy anywhere in the world. It is easy to operate. I used to have a lantarn burning "petroleum" in dutch (is that nafta, or kerosine? Working in the oil business, I should know). This lantarn was great: It took at least five minutes to light it up. You had to pump it well above its maximum pressure, then open up a nozzle that sprayed petroleum with the sound of an airplane trying to take off. After a few minutes you could try to open the valve to the light itself. If you did it too soon, the lantarn could produce a ball of fire that rose two meters in the air. Fantastic! I had to abandon it because I couldn't get spare parts anymore. So I bought that Coleman, mostly because it reminds me of that old lantarn. Otherwise, I'd probably use a flashlight. Still, the Coleman is a lantarn I can recommend. Niels. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Moin Josh, mh, first thoughts: Butane may explode if treated "right" way. The bottles are heavy and almost unpressable garbage. Butane gots more energy and used in a lantern you may cook on it. Wax burns also hot and is a good light. I use for many years my Uco (single) candle lantern and for me it is great. Small and lightweight, you could burn your finger on the top. The 3 candle lantern from Uco gots a big heat reflector, you may cook on it. Wax you will get everywhere on the world, but gas in the correct bootle may be a problem. Deeper thoughts: Gas lantern are heavier than a Uco (or Northern lights) one. Difficult choice. Israel is quite warm, ey? Thats why you only get butane there, I think. Gas and especially butane isnīt great in the cold nights. Wax burns at any time. But donīt shake a candle lantern! Itīs a "great work" to remove it from the glas. Gas lantern will keep burning if they are shaken, but sometimes they also could burn your tent. I remember a story Eckehard told me 2,5 years ago. He was out on the sea in cold decembre (-5 degree celsius air). He had paddled a long Off Shore tour to visit a slowly sinking ship (Pallas, wood freighter burning and sinking on Amrum plate), rest for night on a high sand. Set up his new very thin tent (single layer). Light his small tea wax light and want to fix the screwing gas bottle to his cooker. But his fingers were so stiff he make a mistake and gas was running out of the bootle. The valve stuck donīt close any more. It was butane and by this temps it is almost liquid. The gas runs towards his little waxlight and before he could avoid it, the gas starts to burn and a huge flame get out his gas bottle. He grab the bottle and through it away, against his new tent. The flame burns a hole in the side an the bottle fall outside, where he could stop the flame. I met him next day and his eyebrows had dissappeared. Lucky one! Little bit higher Temps. and it might had happen an explosion. Okay, thats not normal, but with gas there is potentially higher risk of hard damage if something fails. For me, a gas lantern would only be acceptable if I donīt have to carry it. Snow peak from japan come out with this revolutionary new concept. Snow peak GigaPower GL-100A. This gas lantern is really really small size. 132 gramm and 95x57mm size. The screwing gas bottle is double big as the lantern, but the price! Donīt ask for it. You could buy two Uco Candeliers (3-lantern type) for it. A single candle light is enough for me, a 3 candle light should be more than enough. Hope this is more a help than a confusion to you! You will find your ideal choice, I hope so. bye Jochen G. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Check out the CMG Bonfire Tent Light. It is an LED based lantern. Here is a link to it at REI: http://rei.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=6021354&prmenbr=8000 It's small, lightweight, tough and pretty bright. I bought one a few months back and it's great for in-tent usage. I also have a couple candle lanterns and it is much brighter. I used to use a flashlight lantern, but the batteries would just die on it seems every other trip. -Patrick At 3:06 PM +0200 4/18/01, Joshua Teitelbaum wrote: >Dear friends: > >Can anyone with more experience state the relative pros and cons of >butane vs. candle lanterns? We cannot get propane here, so that >type is out. I'm looking for a big lantern, for family camping. >REI has a 3-candle Uco Candleliern which looks pretty good... > *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
"Josh (who loves paddling his new turquoise Romany Explorer, and has discovered that he can paddle much faster with the Archipelago blade than the Nordkapp blade (Lendal)...)" Mirrors my experience. I bought a Lendal Nordkapp and used it for only one long, weary day. I took it back to the shop in mint condition and exchanged it for the Archipelago. I've been happy enough with that since. Peter Treby 37°42'S 145°08'E *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Peter: The Nordkapp is standard in Israel as the all around paddle. But it seems there is no one paddle good for everything. I could certainly paddle faster with the Archipelago, but I did miss the extra bite on sweep strokes and in the surf. I'm thinking, though, of cutting my Lendal blade to Archipelago proportions (with a hacksaw? I'm not the tool-oriented type...), or something in-between. Nigel has suggested that, but of course he probably has tons of these blades hanging around... Josh At 22:59 18/04/01, you wrote: >"Josh >(who loves paddling his new turquoise Romany Explorer, and has discovered >that he can paddle much faster with the Archipelago blade than the Nordkapp >blade (Lendal)...)" >Mirrors my experience. I bought a Lendal Nordkapp and used it for only one >long, weary day. I took it back to the shop in mint condition and exchanged >it for the Archipelago. I've been happy enough with that since. >Peter Treby >37°42'S 145°08'E ============================================================================== Dr. Joshua Teitelbaum, Research Fellow Tel: [972] 3-640-6448 Moshe Dayan Center for Middle Eastern and Fax: [972] 3-641-5802 African Studies Tel Aviv University Ramat Aviv, Tel Aviv 69978 Israel E-mail:teitelba_at_post.tau.ac.il www.dayan.org ============================================================================== *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Is your paddle fibreglass or plastic? cu *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Is your paddle fibreglass or plastic? Mine's plastic; nylon is in the advertising I think. I'm sure it would cut with a hacksaw OK, and finish off with a bit of sanding. If glass, I'd tape it before sawing. PT 37°42'S 145°08'E *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I have four Archipelago fiberglass blades and one and a half Nordkapp carbon fiber blades. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Treby" <ptreby_at_ozemail.com.au> To: "'Bob Denton'" <gulfstream_at_flinet.com>; "Paddlewise (E-mail)" <paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 5:01 PM Subject: Lendal Blade Size *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
"I have four Archipelago fiberglass blades and one and a half Nordkapp carbon fiber blades." Must be a fine sight under full power. How did the half blade come about? Regards, Peter Treby 37š 42' S 145š 08' E *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I had a bent shaft carbon paddle. It cracked in half one day as I was lightly pushing off from a tree. Lendal said they were sorry, but water must have gotten into the laminations and weakened the blade but they wouldn't replace it. It was less than 6 months old! cu *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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