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From: Blaauw, Niels <nblaauw_at_foxboro.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] reverse-rocker
Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 07:39:20 -0400
A friend of me bought a Falco touring kayak, kind of a hybrid between a
touring kayak and a sea kayak. She was very surprised (upset, disappointed)
that the bottom of the boat was hollow: When laying on a flat surface, it
rests on bow and stern with the middle section about 5 centimeters above
ground.

I guess this can't be a production error, not in a polyesther boat. It must
be a deliberate design, but I don't understand why.

Can anybody explain what advantages this built might have? I think my friend
needs some reassurance that she's bought the right kayak.

I am quite sure this friend is not a member of PaddleWise, so you can tell
the truth, I will filter the answers myself.

Niels.
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From: Gabriel L Romeu <romeug_at_erols.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] reverse-rocker
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 09:58:25 -0400
Niels, is it possible that heat got to it resting on saddles (like on a
car top)?

"Blaauw, Niels" wrote:
> 
> A friend of me bought a Falco touring kayak, kind of a hybrid between a
> touring kayak and a sea kayak. She was very surprised (upset, disappointed)
> that the bottom of the boat was hollow: When laying on a flat surface, it
> rests on bow and stern with the middle section about 5 centimeters above
> ground.
> 
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From: Steve Scherrer <Flatpick_at_teleport.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] reverse-rocker
Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 07:48:57 -0700
The term for reverse rocker is *hogged*.  Don't know why it would be hogged,
as I'm not familiar with Falco kayaks but if it is new she might take it
back and see what's up.  If it's used, you could add rocker to the boat by
hanging it from the ends and filling it with hot water.  We used to do this
with whitewater kayaks back in the '80's.

Good Luck.

Steve Scherrer
aldercreek.com


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From: cholst <cholst_at_bitstream.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] reverse-rocker
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 17:53:40 GMT
Blaauw, Niels writes:

> A friend of me bought a Falco touring kayak, kind of a hybrid between a
> touring kayak and a sea kayak. She was very surprised (upset, disappointed)
> that the bottom of the boat was hollow: When laying on a flat surface, it
> rests on bow and stern with the middle section about 5 centimeters above
> ground. 
> 
> I guess this can't be a production error, not in a polyesther boat. It must
> be a deliberate design, but I don't understand why. 
> 

My old polyethylene Sea Lion was hogged, too, which was one reason I got rid 
of it. Someone told me the fiberglass original from which the mold was 
created did not have this defect, and that the poly version assumed the 
hogged shape only after it was removed from the mold. So if this information 
is correct, then it can indeed be a production error -- and a repeatable 
one, at that. 

Chuck Holst 
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From: ralph diaz <rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] reverse-rocker
Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 14:12:41 -0400
----- Original Message -----
From: "cholst" <cholst_at_bitstream.net>

> My old polyethylene Sea Lion was hogged, too, which was one reason I got
rid
> of it. Someone told me the fiberglass original from which the mold was
> created did not have this defect, and that the poly version assumed the
> hogged shape only after it was removed from the mold. So if this
information
> is correct, then it can indeed be a production error -- and a repeatable
> one, at that.

I once saw a Feathercraft K-2 that took on a negative rocker.  It was owned
by any older couple who found the assembly so vexing that they kept it
assembled all the time.  The trouble is that it was left on their roof rack
on a car with not a particularly long roof line.  The double is around 20
feet long.  Eventually the ends sagged from months of such storage giving it
a negative rocker.  To a degree, when placed on the water, the flexibility
of the frame and their weight in the cockpit area brought the rocker back
toward its intended design but not fully as far as I could tell.

BTW, you certainly can carry a K-2 for hundreds or thousands of miles on
your car.  Just don't constantly store it on your roof rack unless you
prepare some way of supporting more of its length.  One fellow who was
forced to permanently store his Khatsalano on his roofrack, hit on the idea
of using an extension ladder as a base for carrying the boat on the roof of
his SUV.  He cut out foam blocks to support the Khats at I think about 6 to
8 places for greater retention of shape and rocker.  It worked quite well
but one day he drove into an underground garage forgetting he had the thing
on his roof.  The rigid solid ladder and its extensive connections to his
roof made it incredibly solid.  Ordinarily in such situations, roof racks
will pop off or straps at the normal two spots will pop off.  But his
didn't.  What gave was his poor Khats and it totaled.

ralph diaz

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