----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Kruger" <dkruger_at_pacifier.com> > Peter Osman wrote: > > > I'd be interested in other opinions on paddle length. Several people > > have talked on Paddlewise about problems arising from the use of feathered > > paddles with cocked wrists. But as I heard on Saturday it doesn't seem to be > > necessary to rotate the wrist provided the paddle length and forward stroke > > are adjusted appropriately. > > Generated significant tendon pain when I "graduated" from a 235 cm Werner San > Juan (monster blades) to a 245, enough I had to lay off paddling for a while > ... some 6-7 years ago. > > Switched to a 220 cm Lightning standard sea kayak paddle that summer > (medium-size blades) and have been relatively tendon-pain-free since. > > I believe in short paddles ... it's your technique that counts. The tendency is definitely toward shorter paddles. I once advised use of inordinate length paddles for folding singles and doubles. But I have come down probably around 40 cm from the 240 and 250-60 respectively. ralph diaz *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
At 10:12 AM 5/9/01 -0400, ralph diaz wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Dave Kruger" <dkruger_at_pacifier.com> > > Peter Osman wrote: > > > > > I'd be interested in other opinions on paddle length. Several >people > > > have talked on Paddlewise about problems arising from the use of >feathered > > > paddles with cocked wrists. But as I heard on Saturday it doesn't seem >to be > > > necessary to rotate the wrist provided the paddle length and forward >stroke > > > are adjusted appropriately. > > > > Generated significant tendon pain when I "graduated" from a 235 cm Werner >San > > Juan (monster blades) to a 245, enough I had to lay off paddling for a >while > > ... some 6-7 years ago. > > > > Switched to a 220 cm Lightning standard sea kayak paddle that summer > > (medium-size blades) and have been relatively tendon-pain-free since. > > > > I believe in short paddles ... it's your technique that counts. > >The tendency is definitely toward shorter paddles. I once advised use of >inordinate length paddles for folding singles and doubles. But I have come >down probably around 40 cm from the 240 and 250-60 respectively. I'm glad that Peter started this thread as it's been an issue that I've offered an opinion on before. I've often seen the claim that "feathered paddles cause wrist problems", or the suggestion that "if you're having problems with sore wrists, use a paddle with a smaller feather angle". A couple of years ago I took a class with Derek Hutchinson and he talked a bit about wrist problem from paddling and what he said made a lot of sense. Specifically he was proposing that it isn't the paddle that causes wrist problems, but that fact that a repeated cocking of the wrist to it's maximum range causes wrist problems. It's sort of like the old joke that involves someone going to the doctor and saying, "It hurts when I do this" and the doctor replies "stop doing that". Speficially, if your technique results in keeping your wrists for repeatedly bending to the limit of their range of motion you're not going to have problems with your wrists. One way to do that is to bend your elbow on your control arm as well as bending your wrist. If both joints bend, neither has to bend as much. Using a shorter paddle, doesn't by itself, keep one from cocking their wrist to it's maximum range of motion. It's the technique of using a vertical paddle stroke that does that. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
ralph diaz: ... The tendency is definitely toward shorter paddles. I once advised use of inordinate length paddles for folding singles and doubles. But I have come down probably around 40 cm from the 240 and 250-60 respectively. ... Ralph Hoehn: You're using 200s for singles and 210s-220s for doubles? I'd be very interested in more details on the technique you use with what paddle length for what beam! I coming down to 220s and am wondering whether I might go even shorter and introduce a bit of a slide to the stroke in some of the beamier boats I paddle. What do you think, tocayo? Best regards, Ralph Ralph C. Hoehn Ralph_at_PouchBoats.com www.PouchBoats.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
----- Original Message ----- From: <FoldingBoats_at_aol.com> > ralph diaz: ... The tendency is definitely toward shorter paddles. I once advised use of inordinate length paddles for folding singles and doubles. But I have come down probably around 40 cm from the 240 and 250-60 respectively. ... > > Ralph Hoehn: You're using 200s for singles and 210s-220s for doubles? I'd be very interested in more details on the technique you use with what paddle length for what beam! I coming down to 220s and am wondering whether I might go even shorter and introduce a bit of a slide to the stroke in some of the beamier boats I paddle. What do you think, tocayo? Sorry, it was a slip of the keyboard. I meant 20 cm. So down to 220 or 225 for a single and down to 240 or so for a double. Ken Fink who preaches the school of short, says you can paddle a double Klepper with a 220. I suppose you could if you sat in the front seat and had 38 inch arm seams. ralph diaz *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 01-05-09 14:15:14 EDT, gulfstream_at_flinet.com writes: << I paddle a 116cm Lendal Bent shaft. >> Bob, is this a canoe paddle? :) sandy kramer miami *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Nope, and there are times I suspect it’s a bit long. A 210 would probably be perfect. Remember I am sitting on the hull of a narrow sea kayak. cya *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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