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From: Andreas Hack <andreas_at_ahack.org>
subject: [Paddlewise] sea sock
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 05:34:39 +1000
> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:08:40 +1000
> From: "Wilky" <carrot_at_vision.net.au>
> Has any one used or do use a sea sock??
> Cheers
> Wilky
> From down under down under in Tasmania where most people
use electric bilge
> pumps

Hello Wilky,

I bought a Feathercraft K1 a few month ago and am using it
with it's sea sock which is standard equipment.

Comments from a sea kayaking newbie:
*  little water in cockpit after wet exit & re-entry.  this
may also be a function of the internal sponsons which float
the boat up on its side quite high when righting it.
*  about 10-20 litres water in hull after 60 minutes of
bracing practice, 2 wet exits & re-entry, and boat being
rolled 2 X       [not by me ... yet   :-)   ]
*  have once sat on the kayak behind the cockpit and emptied
the sock by turning it inside out while it was still
attached to the cockpit rim.
*  haven' t quite found a way yet to feel fully at home with
my feet on rudder controls=footrest with the sock in
between.
*  read of people concerned about getting entangled in their
sock, but haven't had a feeling that this is an issue yet
(maybe it depends on choice of sock material & slipperiness
of your clothing).
*  it is important to allow air to get out of the hull when
you first get into the sock, otherwise it closely hugs your
legs & feet.  I guess the plus side of this could be that
this minimises the amount of water getting into the sock,
but on the other hand it definitely increases chances of
entanglement.
*  could imagine things getting quite hot in the sock during
summer, but right now it feels nicely warm & snug (for those
of you who are upside down from our perspective - it's
middle of winter here).
*  haven't quite come to grips yet with how you could
implement the Australian Board of Canoe Education standard
'pump or self-bailer capable of 'no hands' operation'  for
both the hull and the sock.
*  sock is very nice to have when arriving at overnite camp:
just pile all your gear into the sock and amble up to your
chosen spot looking like Father Xmas.

If you want to have a look at mine, let me know.

   Cheers,  Andreas

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Andreas Hack
Hobart, Tasmania, Australia
Phone 0408 123 658 anytime
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From: ralph diaz <rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] sea sock
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 12:29:43 -0400
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andreas Hack" <andreas_at_ahack.org>
>
> I bought a Feathercraft K1 a few month ago and am using it
> with it's sea sock which is standard equipment.
>
> Comments from a sea kayaking newbie:
> *  little water in cockpit after wet exit & re-entry.  this
> may also be a function of the internal sponsons which float
> the boat up on its side quite high when righting it.
> *  about 10-20 litres water in hull after 60 minutes of
> bracing practice, 2 wet exits & re-entry, and boat being
> rolled 2 X       [not by me ... yet   :-)   ]

Feathercraft has an aftermarket version of the sea sock that has a neoprene
material where it attaches to the cockpit coaming.  This neoprene hem
pressed against the hem of a neoprene skirt is reported to keep water from
coursing past the sea sock rim into the hull.

> *  have once sat on the kayak behind the cockpit and emptied
> the sock by turning it inside out while it was still
> attached to the cockpit rim.

Yes, I once did that with a Feathercraft double we intentionally capsized.
I was able to do it from the water and little water actually was in the
sock.

> *  haven' t quite found a way yet to feel fully at home with
> my feet on rudder controls=footrest with the sock in
> between.

That could be tricky with the rudder controls but should be okay when the
pedals are fixed.   You might want to try what some people mentioned here
earlier, namely put a piece of hard form at the front end of the sea sock
and let that be your contact with the pedals.  But this won't work with a
rudder, necessarily.

> *  it is important to allow air to get out of the hull when
> you first get into the sock, otherwise it closely hugs your
> legs & feet.  I guess the plus side of this could be that
> this minimises the amount of water getting into the sock,
> but on the other hand it definitely increases chances of
> entanglement.

Yes, that is the tradeoff.  Air pressure inside the hull would definitely
help keep water out.

best,

ralph diaz--
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