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From: <FoldingBoats_at_aol.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Folding Boats
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 17:35:48 EDT
Here is a URL for some pictures to warm your cockles ... even if you're not (yet! ;-)) infected by the folding boat bug (or read German).

http://www.bis.uni-oldenburg.de/~kropp/faltboot/galerie/galerie.htm

These pictures were shot at recent folding boat ralleys in Germany. They are reminiscent of similar black and white photos that appear in "Der Hadernkahn" (a pictorial history of folding boats by Christian Altenhofer). 

The folding boat renaissance is clearly ongoing ... in good part surely due to Ralph Diaz's work over the last decade or so!

:-))

Enjoy!

Best regards,
Ralph

Ralph C. Hoehn
Ralph_at_PouchBoats.com
www.PouchBoats.com

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From: Michael Daly <michaeldaly_at_home.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Folding Boats
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 20:00:33 -0400
From: <FoldingBoats_at_aol.com>

> Here is a URL for some pictures to warm your cockles ... even if you're not (yet! ;-)) infected by the folding boat bug (or read
German).
>
> http://www.bis.uni-oldenburg.de/~kropp/faltboot/galerie/galerie.htm
>

Nice photos!

The Schwarz 2000 photos, fifth photo from the top.  The white kayak looks like a skin-on-frame
rather than a folding boat.  Is this a homebuilt folding kayak?  If so, it's gorgeous!  If Feathercraft
made one like that, I'd buy it!

Mike

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From: Craig MacKinnon <elroca_at_earthlink.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Folding Boats
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 18:24:39 -0400
Great shots. In one of the photos, there is a folding boat on the water with
what looks like an axle and two tires; is this an early amphibious
prototype? Once on land do you kick start it like the Flintstones? This
might be kayakings answer to high gas prices--although I didn't see any turn
signals. Yaba Daba Doo!

Craig


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From: <FoldingBoats_at_aol.com>
To: <Bagboater_at_yahoogroups.com>; <Paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 5:35 PM
Subject: [Paddlewise] Folding Boats

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> http://www.bis.uni-oldenburg.de/~kropp/faltboot/galerie/galerie.htm
>
> These pictures were shot at recent folding boat ralleys in Germany.
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From: Marian Gunkel <marian-list_at_gmx.de>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Folding Boats
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 10:40:17 +0200
>> http://www.bis.uni-oldenburg.de/~kropp/faltboot/galerie/galerie.htm

> The Schwarz 2000 photos, fifth photo from the top.  The white kayak looks
> like a skin-on-frame
> rather than a folding boat. Is this a homebuilt folding kayak?  If so,
> it's gorgeous!

It is homebuilt and foldable, like the blue one just right of the white one (fifth photo from top).

For a story of Volker Born, the builder, see http://www.pouchboats.com/volker_born.html (part of the Amateur Folding Boat Builders Corner).

And yes, Volkers boats *are* gorgeous (I paddled both with him and his boats). And the good news is: he is willing to build more of them (for a price, though and if he's got enough time).

Cheers,
Marian





Marian Gunkel, Berlin, Germany
www.mariangunkel.de

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From: ralph diaz <rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] [Bagboater] Folding Boats
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 09:25:04 -0400
----- Original Message -----
From: <Ralph_at_PouchBoats.com>

> Here is a URL for some pictures to warm your cockles ... even if you're
not (yet! ;-)) infected by the folding boat bug (or read German).
>
> http://www.bis.uni-oldenburg.de/~kropp/faltboot/galerie/galerie.htm
>
> These pictures were shot at recent folding boat ralleys in Germany. They
are reminiscent of similar black and white photos that appear in "Der
Hadernkahn" (a pictorial history of folding boats by Christian Altenhofer).

The photos pointed to by Ralph Hoehn certainly are a wonderful throwback to
those in that great Der Hadernkahn book.  I am impressed to see those
folding kayak rallies going on in Germany.  Many thanks, Tocayo.

>
> The folding boat renaissance is clearly ongoing ... in good part surely
due to Ralph Diaz's work over the last decade or so!

Thanks but I think a lot of people should share the glory or the blame :-).
What I have done is basically bucked the tide a bit and said it is okay to
use a folding kayak and way as well as to dispell some misconceptions about
them.  The rest is the result of people seeing for themselves that folding
kayaks are just fine.  And, this is important, they then go on to say the
same to others and use their folding kayaks in an imaginative way, kind of
like hundreds and hundreds of disciples spreading the word of a religion.

I think the companies are also doing their big bit.  At one time it was
Feathercraft that was doing all the experimenting and new model
introductions.  Now, in recent years, the other companies are too.  As can
be seen in the photos that Ralph points to in the URL, even Klepper is in an
experimental mood.  That catamaran may or not be a hit but it does show
willingness to try new ideas.  From my talks with the Dr. Isbruch who took
over ownership of the company two years ago, I get the impression that
Klepper is going to be trying out many new ideas while keeping its
traditions intact as well.

I am really excited about something I have done for the current issue of the
newsletter.  Exactly 10 years ago in the inaugural issue, I interviewed the
major four manufacturers about how they saw themselves and the kayaking
market.  Now I am revisiting the scene with them a decade later.  A lot has
happened for them and folding kayaks in the intervening years.  The
impression I get is like having hiked some rough terrain with friends and,
at the end of the day, looking back at how the day went so well and looking
forward to the next day's hike.

I think that folding kayaks have a solid position in the overall kayaking
market and will continue strong as a viable niche market.  It didn't look
that way necessarily 10 years ago and that is why it has been fun looking
back at the past decade and also ahead with the CEOs of the companies.

I hope my hardshell kayaking friends will forgive me when I say that when I
look at their kayaks I am tempted to remark "You mean your kayak _doesn't_
fold?  What an archaic idea!"  :-)

cheers and good paddling wherever you are,

ralph diaz--
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From: Michael Daly <michaeldaly_at_home.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] [Bagboater] Folding Boats
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 20:30:13 -0400
From: "ralph diaz" <rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com>

> I hope my hardshell kayaking friends will forgive me when I say that when I
> look at their kayaks I am tempted to remark "You mean your kayak _doesn't_
> fold?  What an archaic idea!"  :-)

Some paddling friends told us of the events surrounding their absence from this
year's Georgian Bay symposium.  It seems they were putting the kayaks on the 
roof of their vehicle and he decided to move said vehicle while the kayaks weren't
quite tied down.  He ran over the end of the rope attached to the bow of her
ancient and venerable Tieken Sealution.  Said kayak folded quite nicely.  She
wasn't too pleased though.

Mike

PS Swift fixed it up just fine.  Rather than stretching and wrestling with the kayak
as you do with a true foldable, they just smeared it inside with epoxy and more 
glass.


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