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From: <JCMARTIN43_at_aol.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Radical bilge pump
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:44:05 EDT
Really.  Radical!  Radical Gear in Philadelphia sells an interesting, simple, efficient, relatively inexpensive (compared to other built-ins) bilge pump for kayaks at <http://www.radicalgear.com/Built-InBilgePump.html>.  Just wondering if anyone's ever used one before?  Seems like a good concept.  And the second check valve is in the end of the take-up hose so you can dry things out pretty well --- none of that obscene slosh-back from a relaxed pump.  Any experience with it?

Jack Martin

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From: Tommy <gadfly911_at_home.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Radical bilge pump
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:36:26 -0700
Jack,

         Interesting set up-but I wonder if finding some way to mount it 
forward near the paddlers feet, so it could be foot operated might be a 
better idea?

         Thanks for the link!

                 Tommy...

At 01:44 PM 6/11/01, JCMARTIN43_at_aol.com wrote:
>Really.  Radical!  Radical Gear in Philadelphia sells an interesting, 
>simple, efficient, relatively inexpensive (compared to other built-ins) 
>bilge pump for kayaks at 
><http://www.radicalgear.com/Built-InBilgePump.html>.  Just wondering if 
>anyone's ever used one before?  Seems like a good concept.  And the second 
>check valve is in the end of the take-up hose so you can dry things out 
>pretty well --- none of that obscene slosh-back from a relaxed pump.  Any 
>experience with it?
>
>Jack Martin


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From: Michael Daly <michaeldaly_at_home.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Radical bilge pump
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 20:52:54 -0400
From: <JCMARTIN43_at_aol.com>


>  Really.  Radical!  Radical Gear in Philadelphia sells an interesting, simple, efficient, relatively
>  inexpensive (compared to other built-ins) bilge pump for kayaks at 
> <http://www.radicalgear.com/Built-InBilgePump.html>.  Just wondering if anyone's ever used 
> one before?  

I saw one in a kayak and asked "What's that?"  I got to play with it very briefly.  It seems
like a good idea, but two things make me cautious.

1 - I didn't like the handle.  The ring thing seems like a poor choice.  I have visions of
    it digging into the inside of my knuckle when using it aggressively.  I'd probably put
   a length of line or webbing into the ring as a handle that I can grab with my fist.
2 - It seemed to be made of relatively light plastic bits.  This didn't give me the 
    impression that it would last a long time.  This may be an incorrect impression and
    I'd like to be shown wrong.

Overall I liked the simplicity and the compactness of it.  It didn't take a lot of space.
I would like to see this adapted to a foot pump.

I can't for the life of me remember when or where I saw it!  

Mike


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