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From: Bill Hansen <bhansen2_at_twcny.rr.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Radical bilge pump
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 07:43:27 -0400
The compactness and ease of installation of this pump have great appeal. 
I'll bet that for really secure installation it would be wise to affix a 
collar of some substantial material (wood, epoxy, etc - maybe even 
good-quality closed-cell foam) to the underside of the deck when installing 
the pump, because repeated pumping motion might easily loosen a simple 
through-the-deck mounting, resulting in an annoying through-deck leak - or 
a disastrous one.

I wonder if anyone has an independent idea of how quickly they empty the 
boat, compared to the usual hand-operated pump, and compared to one of the 
electric pumps. It seems as if the stroke volume would be small and 
therefore the minute-volume flow (cfm) would be low, leading to a rather 
long emptying time. For my boats, the shorter pump might be necessary. I'll 
measure one of the boats today, and will probably also contact Radical Gear 
to see if they have a cfm figure of their own.

Bill Hansen
Ithaca NY


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From: <JCMARTIN43_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Radical bilge pump
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 11:03:59 EDT
In a message dated 6/13/2001 10:08:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
bhansen2_at_twcny.rr.com writes:


> I'll measure one of the boats today, and will probably also contact Radical 
> Gear 
> to see if they have a cfm figure of their own.
> 
> 
Save you the trouble, Bill.  Can't imagine them minding free paddler-time.

________________

[From Radical Gear]

Support: The pump is supported by the top deck only .....   Certainly a 
support could be placed on the bottom of the kayak, if required by your 
particular kayak.
  
<Snip: "O" ring response info>

Weight - including inlet tubing: 5" pump -1lb 4 oz, 8" pump - 1 lb 6 oz

Capacity - 5" pump: 5 GPM, 8" pump: 6GPM

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Five or six GPM isn't bad, but I think it would be dependent on location and 
arm angle; there's not a significant difference in pump power between the 
two, so the need to use the smaller one isn't much of a penalty.  Agreeed --- 
some sort of large "fender washer" device might be strongly indicated.  
(They're used to plastic whitewater boats, I suspect.)

Jack Martin





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