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From: Bob Denton <gulfstream_at_flinet.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Orlando
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 18:39:44 -0400
Is there any paddling in Orlando? I have to do a trade show next week
and am thinking of bringing the boat. Any suggestions?

Cya




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From: JCAS <jsanford1_at_cfl.rr.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Orlando
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 20:32:36 -0400
>Is there any paddling in Orlando? I have to do a trade show next week
>and am thinking of bringing the boat. Any suggestions?
>
>Cya
>
>
We have lake and river paddling.  The St. Johns is big and slow and 
hot in the afternoon.  The Wekiva River is my favorite for every day 
paddling.  It is cool, scenic and mostly primitive.  Joe Sanford

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From: Dan McCarty <dmccarty_at_us.ibm.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Orlando
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 08:18:11 -0400
I have been down the Wiekiva a few times.  Its been, yikes, a good 15 years
since the last trip.  The Spring/River starts in Altamonte Springs which is
on the north side of O town.  At the spring is a state park where you can
rent canoes.  There is also another outfit that used to be outside the park
that rented as well.  There is a marina a few miles downstream from the
park where the rentals pull out.  You can put in at the marina and head to
the St. Johns.  I did this many, many years ago, 20+, with my dad.  Its
about a 20 mile trip and we had to have my mom pick us up at the St. Johns.
I don't know about any outfitters that might pick up.

What is really sad is that the park used to be out in the middle of no
where.  Now its heavily developed getting to the park or marina as well as
around the river.  There used to be old houses/huts ON the river but I
think they have been taken down.

>From O town take I4 to Altamonte and get off at 436.  I think its 436.  Its
the exit for the Altamonte Mall.  I can drive their blind folded but I
can't remember the roads anymore....  But that is the general area.  On
what I think is 436 you make a left from I4 and the road to the park used
to have an Albertsons on the right side.  Turn right and you should see
signs for the park.  The Marina was before the park.

Most of the directions should be valid but like I said its been a few
years....  8-)

Its a very pretty river and the water is COLD.  I can remember swimming at
the springs in August and having to get out of the water since I was
shivering so bad.  Course with the heat and humidity it only took a few
minutes out of the water before you were ready to get back into the spring!
8-)

Hope this helps...
Dan McCarty

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From: Gordon Voisey <gvoisey_at_nyc.rr.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Florida Everglades
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 09:58:30 -0400
I am going to Florida over Xmas and am interested in a great ,scenic place
in the everglades where we can rent good touring Kayaks (or sit-on-tops) for
daytrips with a guide.

Suggestions appreciated

Thanks


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From: <Gypsykayak_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Florida Everglades
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:52:50 EDT
Gordon, Florida Bay Outfitters (FBO) is located in Key Largo...check their 
site at www.kayakfloridakeys.com

what part of the Everglades are you planning on paddling?  If you enter via 
the west coast that's the 10,000 Islands area.....via the main park entrance 
to Flamingo becomes yet another area.

Estero Outfitters are on the west coast - Koreshan State Park (or whatever it 
is).

I'm not familiar with other outfitters, but if you email Monica or Frank Woll 
at FBO they will know.  Johnny Molly has a relatively new book out called 
Paddling the Florida Everglades (sorry, book is at home and the title may not 
be 100%).

I can check some of my books for outfitter addresses, but I'm only familiar 
with the ones in the southeast area.

keep in touch via the back channel

sandy kramer
miami
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From: Bob Denton <gulfstream_at_flinet.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Florida Everglades
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 15:24:09 -0400
The first question is are you talking about the Everglades or Everglades
National Park. The actual paddling in the park is in the 10,000 Islands
area of Florida. You depart from Everglades City or Flamingo and either
paddle out through the mangroves to the Keys (islands) on the Gulf or
paddle the more inland waters but it's all salt or brackish water. 

Everglades city is loaded with outfitters. Look the place up on the
internet and you can't go wrong. A typical paddle is 8 or 10 miles and
then camp out on a white sandy beach. You can also stay on chickees,
platforms amongst the mangroves or on dirt. Dirt is the least desirable
from an insect perspective.

You have to book a campsite at the ranger station and you can only do it
in person. It's first come, first serve, so plan on being there the
night before you wish to depart. I may be paddling there myself this
Christmas. Stay in touch.

cya



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From: Robert J. Matter <rjmatter_at_prodigy.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Florida Everglades
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 01:24:43 -0500
Bob Denton wrote [edited]:
> 
> A typical paddle is 8 or 10 miles and
> then camp out on a white sandy beach. You can also stay on chickees,
> platforms amongst the mangroves or on dirt.

I remember reading a trip report in Canoe & Kayak magazine (or maybe it was Sea Kayaker) a couple years ago about a canoeist or kayaker who went camping in the Everglades and reserved one of those wood platforms.  I believe they have a Porta-Potty on them, a picnic table, and space to pitch a tent.  Well apparently the water level was a little high and when the author paddled to his platform there was a big fat alligator sunning himself on it.

A paddle trip to the Everglades sounds intriguing.

-Bob Matter
Hammond, Indiana

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From: Bob Denton <gulfstream_at_flinet.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Florida Everglades
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 15:25:32 -0400
BTW I have a good scan of the Everglades Park map, if you'd like a copy.



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From: Greg Stamer <gstamer_at_hotmail.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Orlando
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 09:54:59 -0400
Bob,

One of my favorite paddling "loops" in the Orlando area is to start from 
Blue Springs State Park (a first-magnitude spring, near Deland, which is 
home to plenty of Manatees in Winter and flows into the St. John's river), 
circumnavigate Hontoon Island (state park, island has a wonderful hammock 
trail leading to an extensive Timucuan midden and first-growth live oak) and 
return through one of several canals cut in the Huntoon Dead River, for 
logging, many years ago.

I usually see gators, bald eagles, deer, and other wildlife. Another nice 
aspect of this trip is that much of the travel on the St. John's in this 
area is speed controlled (manatee zone), so you can sprint past the idling 
powerboats as you go. This is in contrast to most parts of the St. John's 
which have powerboats buzzing past you at 50mph+.

Greg Stamer
Orlando, Florida

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