Mike asked: <SNIP>>>>>>>Has anyone stood up in a heavily loaded kayak? is it particularly difficult to balance? Is 100 lb cargo much of an upper limit on typical loads? (I've never weighed all my gear) It sounds high to me.<<<<<< Back when we began selling the first Mariner, around 1981, a competitor started telling everybody how tippy it was. It was pretty tippy too being all of 20.5" wide. For comparison, some thought it more stable than a Nordkapp, but I thought it wasn't quite as stable as a Nordkapp. Anyway, that store had a photo contest where all of the photo contest entries were posted in their store. So I stuck about 50 pounds of rocks in the Mariner under the float bags one cold November day and Cam shot up a roll of film of me standing in that kayak. I was prepared to get wet with a wetsuit under my clothes but never got wet. Because of the wind I had to stand up and get back down to paddle back out (to good picture range) many times too. Incidentally: On the same roll of film Cam took that day there is a picture of me inflating one of the homemade sponsons I had made (from float bags inflated inside sleeping bag stuff sacks). I had sewn webbing and buckles on to the stuff sacks to affix these inflatable "sponsons" to each side of the kayak. I even had a strap in the middle to buckle the sponsons together under the kayak and so I could pull them down into the water for increasing the stability. I was testing the sponson concept for the self-rescue possibilities (and for the possibility of stabilizing the kayak for sleeping or spending the night in it). This picture is what is known as "prior art" in the patent game. It and several other prior uses of "sponsons" on kayaks that are documented well prior to Sponsonman having applied for a patent on his sponsons pretty much renders the patent useless. (It was so poorly written as to be virtually worthless already). If anybody would like to "do sponsons right" to make them more functional or address some of the shortcomings of what is now available (but have been stopped by the idea that sponsons are already patented) probably has little to worry about (besides Tim's wrath, legal threats, and never ending written diatribes anywhere he can't be stopped). But, even then he is more likely to skewer himself with his own pen than damage his intended target. But, I digress. Back to Mike's other question: 100 pounds seems like a pretty light load to me. "Now where did I pack that kitchen sink?" Five gallons of water weighs 40 pounds and I've often added more water than that to my already 100 plus pound load for a trip of a week or more. Without checking Mike's math, I'll stick my neck out and say that his conclusions sound about right to me as to the relative stability of the different ways of stabilizing a kayak that I have experienced. Matt Broze http://www.marinerkayaks.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************Received on Fri Dec 28 2001 - 03:05:18 PST
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