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Nick Schade wrote: Why are you attributing the performance difference to the 
chine 
shape. 

The typical kayaker edges more easily and consistently with hard chines than 
soft. That gives the kayaker a greater sense of control and right or wrong, 
they attribute that level of performance to the chines, not the complete 
hull. I believe Mr. Whilden spoke of this, though at a much higher level of 
skill,  when he reported countering broaches by leaning into the wave and 
rudder opposite.
 

Nick Schade wrote: Are the Khatsalano and NordKapp exactly the same except 
for 
chine shape? Isn't the Khatsalano a folding boat and the Nordkapp 
fiberglass? Don't they have different lengths and widths. Aren't they 
actually completely different boats other than being vaguely 
"Greenland Style". 
 

No, they are different boats, however, what I was relating to was the fact 
that in surf, clapotis, etc the hard chines give the appearance of better 
boat control. I will be clearer next time. The designer may be in a better 
position to say why it is, including other aspects of hull shape. Yes, the 
Khat's folds and the Nordkapp takes up 18 feet of garage space. The Khat's is 
17'10"long x 22"b and the Nordkapp Jubilee HMC is 18'long x 21.25"b. Again, 
yes they are completely different, and I was not infering that they are the 
same, nor was I referring to the completely different ride of a hardshell vs. 
a folder. "Vaguely Greenland Style" is hell on their marketing departments 
Nick, ease up!

Nick Schade wrote: Why is it the chine shape making the difference 
and not some other aspect of the design? Isn't that like tasting an 
apple and an onion and saying the apple tastes better because its red.

The chine is what the typical consumer has direct control over and what they 
do with that chine leads to a greater perception of performance. Of course, 
we now know to look for other things that will complete the picture. Perhaps 
you will deconstruct one of your hulls and educate us on why the placement of 
certain features? As for apples and onions, apples taste better to the 
typical consumer because of a higher sugar content. We know this from double 
blind studies conducted back in the '60's where sample groups were polled and 
compared with sample groups of those known to have visual color deficiencies. 
Each reported a more partisan palette toward the apples.

Have a great day,

Rob Gibbert

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