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From: Doug Lloyd <dougl_at_islandnet.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Review: Coming Back Alive
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 17:23:07 -0800
Dave Kruger said:
<snip>
Coming Back Alive mainly focuses on the harrowing helicopter rescue in
January 1999 of three commercial fishers from 70-foot seas on the
Fairweather Ground (Gulf of Alaska).  Two others from the same vessel
were lost.  This is a good
tale for folks interested in how high-seas helicopter rescues work
<snip>

Dave,
If this is the same incident that ran in Reader's Digest a couple of
years back, it was a harrowing happening. I assume this is the one with
the dilapidated ship maybe, or was it they didn't have life rafts...I
can't remember. Anyway, if it was the same incident, I read an excellent
article about the helicopter rescue work -- from the pilots perspective.
The reason the last pilot was finally able to pull off the rescue
was...you guessed it...multiple backups. Excessive fares, etc, were
taken at the last moment, and much thinking outside the box was
required. It was a more exciting story than even the Perfect Storm (from
the aircraft perspective).

BTW, went to see "Black Hawk Down" at the theater. Very good movie.
Lovely shots of the ocean and beaches below the fighting, helicopters
getting shot up, and massacre of Somalians and US Ranger troops. Dang,
what a perverse world we live in -- such beauty, such tragedy. When is
it all going to change?

Doug

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From: <Gypsykayak_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Review: Coming Back Alive
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 09:06:48 EST
In a message dated 02/27/2002 8:28:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
dougl_at_islandnet.com writes:

<< BTW, went to see "Black Hawk Down" at the theater.  >>

I saw the documentary (with interviews with the survivors and re-enactments). 
 Don't think I want to see the movie now.  Has anyone seen both?

sandy kramer
miami
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From: Dave Kruger <dkruger_at_pacifier.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Review: Coming Back Alive
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 18:05:41 -0800
Doug Lloyd wrote:

> Dave,
> If this is the same incident that ran in Reader's Digest a couple of
> years back, it was a harrowing happening. I assume this is the one with
> the dilapidated ship maybe, or was it they didn't have life rafts...

That's the one -- no life raft and an older, but stout, wooden vessel having no
watertight bulkheads.  Life raft would probably not have been useful in those
seas (so the survivors said, anyhow).  It is plain from the account that the
vessel had problems, but they sailed anyway.  Worth reading for a "between the
lines" interpretation of how they got in trouble by ignoring problems.  Not
uncommon in the commercial fishing industry, unfortunately.  A high-risk way to
earn a living.

> I can't remember. Anyway, if it was the same incident, I read an excellent
> article about the helicopter rescue work -- from the pilots perspective.
> The reason the last pilot was finally able to pull off the rescue
> was...you guessed it...multiple backups. Excessive fares, etc, were
> taken at the last moment, and much thinking outside the box was
> required. It was a more exciting story than even the Perfect Storm (from
> the aircraft perspective).

Third chopper did what you said (about 5 times the normal complement of flares)
... and ... the two pilots tried an unorthodox method of maintaining position: 
one pilot did the collective (held altitude) while the other did the joystick
(to put the basket where it needed to go).

-- 
Dave Kruger
Astoria, OR
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From: Rev. Bob Carter <revkayak_at_mtaonline.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Review: Coming Back Alive
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 10:23:00 -0900
To those who have read the book.

I haven't seen the book yet but may know some of the pilots out of Sitka.
Was one named Bob Yerex?

Bob
formerly from Sitka

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