John, I lost my last post to you on your proposed Alaska/BC trip. I was going to snip the last couple of sentences I wrote and send a follow-up, as after rereading it on the later digest version, it didn't sound too comfortably written at the conclusion. What I was trying to say was that dealing with risk safely in a recreational setting, especially sea kayaking, often comes down listening to your instincts -- or as some call it, "one's gut instinct". Moreover, my point (based on some bad past experiences) was that those gut instincts need to be listened to during the dreaming and planning stages of a trip too. I've gone on trips where I new the combination of paddles was a mistake, as well as taken on multiday excursions when health or other factors should have suggested a change in plans (for example). Anyway, I hope I didn't come across the wrong way. And by the way, sometimes that gut instinct negativity is merely bad gas! Hoping for many safe and happy trips to come to you and your wife-to-be. Doug Lloyd *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
while, we're proffering low rate-of-exchange suggestions (ie Rob's dos centavos), here are a couple of piasters' worth from the warm-water wimp paddler in Miami: John, why don't you consider an extended warm water paddle for honing your skills before attempting Seattle/Alaska? Also, Derek C. Hutchinson's Expedition Kayaking would be a good resource for you. Amazon has it. sandy kramer *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
My father did it back in 36 by canoe. They continued over the White Pass and down the Yukon to Circle Alaska. lots of information about it in Ken Wise's book Cruise of the Blue Flujin. Wilderness Adventure books. Check it out. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Ah, those were the days. Men were men and didn't need Gortex and polypro to survive this coast. Gotta respect the many "pioneers" who completed that route, often by canoe or dory (row boat). Modern canoe voyageurs face challenges even today, that are oft avoided with a low-slung kayak. Anyway, don't let Scott from California hear about your dads no-tech trip. :-) I'll be checking out the book too. Thanks. Doug L Coastalcamper_at_aol.com wrote: > My father did it back in 36 by canoe. They continued over the White Pass and down the Yukon to Circle Alaska. lots of information about it in Ken Wise's book Cruise of the Blue Flujin. Wilderness Adventure books. Check it out. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 02/01/2002 5:39:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, dougl_at_islandnet.com writes: << Chris Duff has indicated a certain weariness after 3 months (physically and mentally), and one can find enthusiasm waning after that. Some of the soft skills definitely include the social dynamic, and again, 4-6 months with another individual on the type of trip proposed is an awful long time -- >> In Kayaking the Vermilion Sea (Sea of Cortez/Baja) Jonathan Waterman goes heavily into his relationship. Their's was a 2- month trip. The back page says:"Amid the love and romantic pat of the Baja they discovered that what began as a mutual exploration would soon become an unforgettable test of will.....and the struggle of a man and a woman to find each other." Anyhow, good point Doug, but did you have to use 14 point type BOLD to make it? I found it hard to read. Was yer eyes affected as well, lad? sandy kramer miami *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Sandy said: <snip> Anyhow, good point Doug, but did you have to use 14 point type BOLD to make it? I found it hard to read. Was yer eyes affected as well, lad? ------------- Sandy, Pardon my limited computer/word processing illiterancy/ignorance, but I have no idea what the above means. I wrote as normal with regard to my personal opinions about John heading to Alaska as per his solicitation. I read what was posted subsequently, and it appeared as normative text, just like any other post. So, I'm a bit lost (which wouldn't be the first time :-) ). I have noticed some posts in the past from others (especially Jolie) come out on the digest version as really small print, but only part of the post. Is that what you mean? So, what is causing this. While we are at it [ :-) ], some posts/e-mails I get read from left to right for up to five or more times the usual "return line length". How do I prevent that? Anyone? Its hard to drag the mouse to the right add infinitum. Technical advice appreciated. Thanks Sandy, et al. Doug Lloyd *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
>I have noticed some posts in the past from others (especially Jolie) >come out on the digest version as really small print, but only part of >the post. Is that what you mean? So, what is causing this. What you are describing sounds like the curly quote/apostrophe problem I've seen on many lists. I think the gurus have blamed it on the curly quotes. Next time you see it look to see if it starts at some punctuation. Fairwinds and happy bytes, -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dave Flory, San Jose, CA. daflory_at_pacbell.net Go Sea Kayaking!! (C)2002 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Speak softly and study Aikido, then you won't need a big stick. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Thanks everyone for all the great responses to my original post. I've been hoping to respond to people individually but I've gotten so many responses (public and private) that I haven't had time, so a public "thank you" will have to do. I got many useful suggestions including other books to read, and I'll definitely do that. Almost everyone also encouraged me to try and make the trip a reality (after gaining experience -- which is understandably hard to define -- outside of a spreadsheet, that is :-)). I really appreciated that. Being new to the newsgroup I was happy to see there was no "elitist" attitude that some sports seem to have. I'm still not sure what will come of this, but I'm going to keep reading, get onto the local lakes this summer to paddle around and learn to eskimo roll (9000 ft lakes will probably be the same water temp as Alaska!), and see if I can manage some preliminary trips in the Pacific NW to see what's it like. Anybody on the list have a kayak on/near Lake Dillon, CO that I could play around in? (I'll be moving from Boulder to Breckenridge in a couple of months). Thanks again to everyone who responded! Cheers, -John *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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