At 12:08 PM 2/4/2002 -0800, you wrote: >I never wear a wetsuit under a drysuit. Fleece is so much more >comfortable and just as warm. steve, sorry, maybe i'm coming in late on this, but exactly what kind of fleece do you mean? thank you kcd *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
timbre_at_spiger.com wrote: > > At 12:08 PM 2/4/2002 -0800, you wrote: > >I never wear a wetsuit under a drysuit. Fleece is so much more > >comfortable and just as warm. > > steve, sorry, maybe i'm coming in late on this, but exactly what kind of > fleece do you mean? Polyester fleece of many types, which is sold generically as polypro and also as Coolmax, Thermax, Polartec, Capilene, etc. THE place to get fleece with out getting fleeced is Sierra Trading Post http://www.sierratradingpost.com, or more specifically (this is gonna wrap something awful) http://www.sierratradingpost.com/prod_list_display.asp?dept%5Fid=L1%7E190&dept%5Fname%5Fp=Men%27s+Clothing&mscssid=HW43AS947WKP9MAJDXA70DRQC81587G2 Polartec is really good stuff, but I also have a couple of non-branded fleece shirts from STP that are really warm. You can buy Patagucci if you insist, but $20 per piece is my top limit, and I mostly pay $8-$12 for a top or bottom. Wash it cold and air dry it or use low heat and no fabric softener. And it'll still have a lingering odor, probably, which will allow other paddlers to identify you even if you're not wearing your PW t-shirt. -- Steve *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
From: "Steve Cramer" <cramer_at_coe.uga.edu> > Polyester fleece of many types, which is sold generically as polypro and > also as Coolmax, Thermax, Polartec, Capilene, etc. Actually, these are very different products. Polypro is polypropylene, not polyester and has very different properties. The Coolmax products I've seen are not fleece and I know a lot of folks who consider it a good warm weather fabric but not great in cool weather (myself and my partner Amie included - she loves Coolmax for training and running marathons, but leaves it in the drawer in winter). I only wear Polartec fleece in my drysuit. I wear a 100 weight, one piece bunny suit as a minimum and add a 100 or 200 weight sweater as the temps go down. I do use wool socks (Smartwool hiking socks) and add long johns (Polartec PowerDry or sometimes Louis Garneau cycling tights - the non-stretchy, fake wool kind) if its really cold. In the fall, the water is still warm even though air temps drop - that's when I wear lighter fleece in the dry suit. The winter means thick fleece and comfortable paddling. In the spring, the water's cold and the air is mild - thick fleece and less paddling comfort due to being too warm while paddling. My bias towards Polartec is based on experience. Some competitor's products are good but others don't have the wicking etc that Polartec gives. It's a case of YMMV, I guess. Mike *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
A website about various fabrics (synthetic and natural) and their cold/wet-weather properties.... http://www.boac-online.com/OutdoorFAQ/FabricsType.htm This site has another page about dressing for comfort by layering, information on losing body heat, weather protection, waterproof/breathability (this is a cycling/trekking/climbing site with a lot of relevant info about cold-weather gear): http://www.boac-online.com/OutdoorFAQ/Comfort-Dressing.htm jackie *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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