----- Original Message ----- From: "Niels Blaauw" <niels.blaauw_at_wanadoo.nl> > That's the list that Kevin sent me, on a back-channel request for the > requirements on the French sea > > Luckily these regulations are for the ocean. > > I always thought the Americans were security-obsessed, but it seems that > at least one French politian has a serious phobia of water. Yeah Niels, it seems that these rule apply to a kayak going more that 2 miles from firm land. I'm still waiting for firm information and will probably have to write to FFCK which is French for kayak federation. Like you I am still fuming about some of their rules. I just found out that a foldable is (maybe) not allowed as seagoing kayak as it is not rigid enough. How many French tupperwares have crossed the Atlantic, I wonder? I have just slipped over the edge into the no legislation/let nature cull the stupid ones brigade. More news soon, in the meantime, I recommend not understanding the language or the regulations if you go to kayak in French waters. Perhaps we should organise a protest paddle of foldables around French territorial waters! Cheers, Kevin. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Fri, 19 Apr 2002 07:42:28 +0200 "Kevin Dyer" <k.dyer_at_bluewin.ch> wrote: > Perhaps we should organise a protest paddle of foldables around French > territorial waters! Ther German Canoe-Union (DKV = Deutscher Kanu Verband) has already protested against the silly French regulations. For those of you, who understand German: you can read the regulations (and their history) on the website of the DKV: http://www.kanu.de/spezial/kuestenpaddeln/regelungen_frankreich.html Rainer -- Rainer Schroeter, Marburg (Lahn), Germany *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
At 12:53 19/04/2002 +0200, Rainer Schroeter wrote: >On Fri, 19 Apr 2002 07:42:28 +0200 >"Kevin Dyer" <k.dyer_at_bluewin.ch> wrote: > > > Perhaps we should organise a protest paddle of foldables around French > > territorial waters! > >Ther German Canoe-Union (DKV = Deutscher Kanu Verband) has already >protested against the silly French regulations. I wonder how Nautiraid, French manufacturers of foldable kayaks, have reacted to this (maybe there is a special dispensation for Nautiraids but not Kleppers / Feathercraft/ etc. : wouldn't surprise me :-) ). I believe the French military use Nautiraids, so I look forward to hearing about the gendarmerie arresting french commandos. Of course every democratic nation must decide its own rules and regulations. But kayakers are an international lot. Even if it not our place to protest outside our own countries, we should certainly at least let the French authorities know how their extreme and non-sensical restrictions will damage tourism. I have just bought a Feathercraft, and I do go on holidays to France: so this is far from academic for me. Anyone have any idea who I should direct my comments to in France? Nick *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
At least, the stupid french regs ban the french seapaddlers and not the foreign ownss. IF the tourist paddlers could confirm that their seakayak hits the regulation of the country their coming from... Sounds easy, but its quite a problem, i.e. here in germany we got no "official" regulations on seakayaks. But you can hand your kayak to some "specialists" and if your kayak is OK/safe in their opinion, you pay some money and get a fee which says "Yep, approved and hits the german reg..." Strange world, bye Jochen - donīt like to go to france *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Perhaps the French should install some inflatable airbags on their kajaks! That would solve the problem with their flotation requirements:) Heike *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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