knelson_at_actionpoint.com wrote: What ever did those poor Inuit hunters do when they went out all day, and then had to drag a 250 pound seal back with them? I like your point, if you mean, let's get by with just the minimum necessary, and not emphasize equipment too much. But I don't like "What about the Inuit?", as a reason to do or not do anything. If emulating the Greenlanders enhances the activity of sea kayaking, fine. If it doesn't, leave it out. I can fairly safely guess that you don't paddle a sealskin boat framed of driftwood, eat blubber for breakfast, or lend your wife to guests (or be lent). Do you think the Inuit ignore Western tools? They run tours in Feathercraft folding boats, and hunt seals with rifles from aluminium runabouts. >If this was their check list, I believe they would have packed it in, moved south and taken up farming; or opened a small store with the contents of this imaginary day hatch. So you don't take any of these things with you, just a harpoon to get your lunch? >I can't see pumping out a day hatch full of wet whatever either, at least not in front of anyone. I recommend you try a boat with a day hatch. Despite wishing to organize mine better, a day hatch is very convenient. PT, Oz. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Peter Treby answers my comments on Inuit kayakers hunters. This is what happens when you cross an equipment discussion with cultural factors. I could have used the phase, a certain northern peoples who shall remain nameless, but do (did, or may have once had) a certain familiarity with kayaking, travel noticeably lighter than we of the modern era. Lighten up guy; blubber for breakfast & sharing wives indeed, non quis sed quid. As for the use of the object in question, I said I don't have one, on my West Greenland style boat; not I have never used one. Don't get me wrong, I tried the Spartan path many years ago, and I value my comforts and technology. Likewise I consider an excess of gear and every additional hole in my boat something to be avoided. My boat is Kevlar, because I don't like humping around a British heavy on the beach anymore, or 15 extra pounds I don't need. Alternately, I haven't tried putting a very small hatch in my spray skirt. SeaKayaker had an article on this and if your skirt is big enough I think it has some merit. The only thing I wonder about is how the neoprene will wear after a year or two around the hatch attachment points. It doesn't solve the hand in the hatch problem, and could lead to some socially unacceptable comments, but at least you're not twisting around backwards. As for taking a harpoon, as a matter of fact I have used one, but not with a lot of success due to lack of skill and the opportunity to practice. with shotguns and rifles. Contrary to what you might think, you don't capsize when firing a broadside, you just get pushed sideways. BUT.... if I had a family to feed, you bet I'd be on a motorboat just like them. They ain't stupid up there ya know. Kevin knelson_at_actionpoint.com wrote: What ever did those poor Inuit hunters do when they went out all day, and then had to drag a 250 pound seal back with them? I like your point, if you mean, let's get by with just the minimum necessary, and not emphasize equipment too much. But I don't like "What about the Inuit?", as a reason to do or not do anything. If emulating the Greenlanders enhances the activity of sea kayaking, fine. If it doesn't, leave it out. I can fairly safely guess that you don't paddle a sealskin boat framed of driftwood, eat blubber for breakfast, or lend your wife to guests (or be lent). Do you think the Inuit ignore Western tools? They run tours in Feathercraft folding boats, and hunt seals with rifles from aluminium runabouts. >If this was their check list, I believe they would have packed it in, moved south and taken up farming; or opened a small store with the contents of this imaginary day hatch. So you don't take any of these things with you, just a harpoon to get your lunch? >I can't see pumping out a day hatch full of wet whatever either, at least not in front of anyone. I recommend you try a boat with a day hatch. Despite wishing to organize mine better, a day hatch is very convenient. PT, Oz. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Yeah, except this one time, I was paddling out from Newport, Oregon, and I saw this guy pull his cell phone out of his day hatch for a mocking "wish you were here" call! Shawn "Steve Scherrer" <flatpick_at_teleport.com> wrote: >Once you learn to use a day hatch you will never want a boat without >one. It's a great place to store many things and the flexibility to >reach it _at_ sea is not a problem for most. It's _at_ shore where 90% of >the day hatch opening happens anywho! Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more http://games.yahoo.com/ *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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