Hi Rick, I think you make some very good points, but I didn't take it to mean that estabishing this data base would mean that it would no longer be ok just to write the typical notes about heading somewhere and wanting kayaking info. I think it will just serve as an added way of approaching the issue, eg if it's a last minute thing, or if there's someone specific you want to ask info from rather than addressing the whole list. So don't worry about having put me to sleep. Actually, it makes me want to meet you more than we wrote about when you helped me with the tent database. Get that second boat soon and make sure it will fit tall people. :) Or else come up to NY and i'll lend you a boat. Hank > Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 15:12:13 -0400 > From: <Rick.Sylvia_at_ferguson.com> > Subject: [Paddlewise] Visiting Paddlers - Devils Advocate > > P'Wisers, the following is intended to be constructive and helpful..... > hope it reads that way. If not, tell me to go back to sleep :-) > > And as always, if anybody finds themselves coming to southeastern Virginia, > contact me. I hope to have a second boat by the end of summer. > > Rick "resident party poop" Sylvia - Poquoson, VA > > PS - Too bad I'm not paid by the word! > *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I'm in Rick's camp in this one. I have many times hooked up electronically with paddlers in other areas ahead of a visit to get the lowdown ... and been on the other end a few times, also. I prefer the informal method, rather than a formal spreadsheet method. I share Melissa's concerns re: privacy. In addition, I'm pretty fussy about who I paddle with, and sometimes I might opt out of paddles if I decide I don't like the way a trip is looking. OTOH, I have been the grateful recipient of much good info from this list (and Wavelength), so I'd say leave it like it is. It ain't broke. -- Dave Kruger Astoria, OR *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
"Mark Colvin" <mcolvindvm_at_earthlink.net> wrote: >As a primary lurker I like the ablitity to ask for paddle site advice. But for one lurker to contact another lurker would be more problematic. We had a great afternoon on Flathead Lake, but if I hadn't posted a few times, you might not have known you were within 30 miles of another Paddlewiser on your trip last summer. I also agree with the need for security of personal phone numbers and addresses, though. The nicest thing about a list similar to the Warm Showers list is that it would encourage lurkers to list their own contact info, in order to view others'. (I would venture to guess that while lurkers outnumber regular posters on the list 6:1, regular posters probably far outnumber lurkers on the Who's Who list.) Shawn Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 04/12/2002 3:34:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Rick.Sylvia_at_ferguson.com writes: << If a lurker doesn't want to actively participate in discussions, what are the odds that they want to hook-up with another P'Wiser? I don't know, but I can say that I've hooked-up with a lurker who responded to a post back-channel. But, if they are lurking, do you think they'll stick their info on the database? Without the human interaction, I would have missed that opportunity. >> Looks as if Rick and I are on the same page.....i was hosted by a lurker who took me paddling on Morro Bay in CA....she still doesn't post, but I hope she's still lurking...she prepared a delightful picnic lunch. as for the rest of it...i've already forgotten what a 1, 2 or 3 tier is!!! KISS, guys.... sandy kramer in Miami *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Sandy Kramer said--- > KISS, guys.... That completely sums it up. I don't think it could have been said any better. Steve Holtzman CD Gulfstream, Southern CA *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I second the idea of forgetting about a specific list and updating the list and so on. Right now it works very well. I am willing to try to help, lend kayaks, rent kayaks or paddle with somebody coming to Mexico that sends an open request. I am free to reply if my time allows and I am in no obligation to do it because I am in a list. It is my pleasure and IŽll try to make it pleasant for the visitor, trying to exchange experiences and learn form his/her skills and share mine. The good will and passion for our sport will guarantee that there is always somebody available. Best Regards, Rafael. el cayuco chief www.mayanseas.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Rick said: >Kevin, I'm not sure we're on the same page. What I was trying to say was that someone with >excellant geographical knowledge *may* end up *not* being listed if they have moved. That's a >missed opportunity. Rick, we are almost on the same page, but I was not clear. I imagined that people would state their knowledge of different regions that might be of interest to Paddlewisers, but must have assumed that everyone could read my mind. Sorry. From: "Rafael Mier Maza" > Right now it works very well. Thats the important thing really isn't it? If a general message gets a response from anyone concerned thats fine, Kevin. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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