I think what this really points to is outfitting. In a larger boat, outfitting becomes more critical. Unless I'm mistaken, you need a nice pillar and decent thigh straps to roll a C1. Greenland kayaks are commonly built without any hip or knee padding, but their nature of being narrow and shallow precludes the need for padding so the body has contact with the boat at several points. Straight out of the box, whitewater kayaks have better outfitting than most sea kayaks, and definitely S&g plywood boats. With good outfitting, larger boats can be rolled easier. Shawn --- Peter Staehling <staehpj1_at_yahoo.com> wrote: > I didn't think the larger boat was harder to roll only > different. In a big heavy boat like a canoe the roll > is at an entirely different pace, much slower. Would > Shawn's recommendation of a small ww boat help you? > Maybe, but maybe not. I have heard folks say they > found a SK to be much easier to roll. Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Yep, definately do not try to learn to roll in a boat that you are flopping around in. Of course boats of all sizes can be padded out to fit you. Pete Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I haven't learned to roll as I paddle a Sit-On-Top, but they can be rolled. When I was taking a SOT class with my first boat, a Cobra Explorer, 31 inches wide, the instructor asked me to trade boats for minute. He then tucked his knees under my knee straps and rolled it 6 times with no perceptible problem. Then he stood up in the boat for about 30 sedonds before falling out. Obviously if you have a really good roll it can be done in all kinds of boats. If the roll is shaky, practice until it's excellent, otherwise don't depend on being able to roll. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dave Flory, San Jose, CA. daflory_at_pacbell.net Go Sea Kayaking!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Speak softly and study Aikido, then you won't need a big stick. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Outfitting is especially critical in the Chesepeake 18. I'm 6' 230 pounds and before outfitting I didn't make enough contact with my Chesepeake to edge the boat, much less roll. After padding out the hips and adding sizeable knee braces, it is relatively easy to control the boat. While not anywhere near bombproof I have rolled the boat. I think the rounded deck makes the boat easier to roll than many, but the high rear deck makes it critical to learn rolls that do not require you to lay back. > I think what this really points to is outfitting. In a larger boat, > outfitting becomes more critical. Unless I'm mistaken, you need a nice > pillar and decent thigh straps to roll a C1. > Straight out of the box, whitewater kayaks have better outfitting than > most sea kayaks, and definitely S&g plywood boats. With good > outfitting, larger boats can be rolled easier. > *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
----- Original Message ----- From: "Shawn Baker" <shawnkayak_at_yahoo.com> >With good outfitting, larger boats can be rolled easier. Right on! That is exactly the truth, and I've said it many times myself. Good outfitting is the very first step in rolling. Good thigh bracing, good foot braces (that don't move on tracks), and tight hips are the essential aspects. Kevin *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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