Re: [Paddlewise] Tlingit and Kootznoowoo

From: <FoldingBoats_at_aol.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 18:51:32 EDT
In a message dated 8/29/2002 3:03:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
revkayak_at_mtaonline.net writes:

> ... By the way, many now spell 'Kootznoowoo' the way it is supposed to be 
> pronounced -- 'Xootznoowoo'. The 'x' is underlined and pronounced much like 
> the German hard 'g'. ...

A "German hard 'g' "?  As opposed to a German soft 'g'? I never really 
thought about having more than one 'g' in German.

A hard 'g' as in "guten Tag"?

Actually, I guess, the 'g' in "guten" might be considered softer than the 'g' 
in "Tag", which is usually pronounced pretty much as if it were a 'k' (in 
most European languages; at least in those where the 'k' has not morphed into 
the counter intuitive pronunciation 'ch' -- as in 'tsh' -- in local 
dialects), sort of like in "guck mal", where the "guck" ends up sounding 
remarkably like "cook" in most regions of the Federal Republic (with some 
exceptions in both the new and the old states) at least.

I assume that the pronunciation of the 'x' here is in no way related to the 
way the Mexicans almost leave it out when talking about their country? Or is 
there perhaps a similarity to the Arabic letter "ghain", often transliterated 
from Arabic script as 'gh', with the 'h' acting as the softener to the 'g' in 
analogy to the German (and Arabic) HARD 'ch', which is NOT "tsh", but often 
written in transliterations as 'kh', a very throaty, Germanic sort of sound? 
No, I guess not, we were looking for a hard sound.

And you thought that a mere 27 Alaskan languages were tricky?!?

;-)

Before I jump off at the deep end, though, what's the closest equivalent in 
English to that "German had 'g' "? 

Best regards,
Ralph "the Kraut" Hoehn

Ralph_at_PouchBoats.com
www.PouchBoats.com

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