I am considering purchasing a paddling jacket that will fit over both my spraydeck and PFD, so I will be able to put it on and take it off according to changing conditions without having to land on shore to do so safely. Is anyone already doing this, and if so, how much larger a size than normal should I get? Unfortunately, I live in an area where none are available to try on. Thanks! merlin *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Merlin, I'd go at least 1 size bigger, probably 2. PFD takes up alot of room and if you want to put on/ take off _at_ sea, with ease. The bigger the better. Personally, I find a logical guess at the undergarmets required and a gore-tex jacket with latex cuffs works well. I very seldom have to make adjustments and then when I do, I get assistance if necessary. Taking an XXL paddle jacket off over a PFD is going to be a chore, maybe just as big as doing the PFD, then the PJ. Plus if you have *any* rescue/safety/convienience items on your PFD it's buried under your jacket. Plus it's the insulation layers I'm wanting to get to anyway. The PJ is just weather/splash protection, which in my case (choppy/swells/surf paddling) is always needed. It's the layers of capilene that get adjusted. Or easier yet, the hat. I use a hat to fine tune my temperature. What I do pack is a XXL coated raincoat w/hood. This *does* fit over everything and is great to throw on over everything. Lunchtime and breaks find me seriously bundled in the works (w/ BIG fleece hat!) I have never needed to paddle in the raincoat, tho I'm sure it can be done. There's a Cag designed for this, avilable thru Great River Outfitters dealers, tho it's $$$. It's even a sprayskirt! just 2 centavos! steve *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Hi There, Rain can be devestating for any kayaker who happens to get caught in a downpour. We all know that kayaking is a wet sport, but we don't need to get drenched by rain. Merlin was asking about an overjacket. I haven't tried this product but NRS have obviously thought about rain too!. Introduced this year, NRS are producing an `over shell' jacket based on their breathable Sea Tour paddling jacket - it's designed to fit over the PFD. I noticed it in their new catalogue. It's also on their web site catalogue. Check out Re: http://www.nrscatalog.com/ Needless to say I have no affiliation with NRS,xcept as a happy customer. As to the West Coast kayak Symposium. I will be there as part of Seaward Kayaks marketing team. Seaward is my employer. Any paddlewiser will be assured of a warm welcome at the Seaward booth. c. banner Thetis Island. B.C. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
After reading about a paddling jacket fitting over a PFD, I starting thinking about early Christmas presents for me. You know the kind...you buy 'em and put them under the tree for you, "from Santa". The first thing on my list is a new PFD. My current one is getting pretty ratty from practice self-rescue work and general wear and tear. I am primarily a day tripper on Lake Michigan, 5'11", 220 and own a CD Solstice. I am partial to the Lotus Locean. Any works of wisdom? Best Regards, Tony Reynes -----Original Message----- From: owner-paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net [mailto:owner-paddlewise_at_paddlewise.net]On Behalf Of cbanner Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 11:42 PM To: PaddleWise_at_paddlewise.net Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Paddling Jacket question Hi There, Rain can be devestating for any kayaker who happens to get caught in a downpour. We all know that kayaking is a wet sport, but we don't need to get drenched by rain. Merlin was asking about an overjacket. I haven't tried this product but NRS have obviously thought about rain too!. Introduced this year, NRS are producing an `over shell' jacket based on their breathable Sea Tour paddling jacket - it's designed to fit over the PFD. I noticed it in their new catalogue. It's also on their web site catalogue. Check out Re: http://www.nrscatalog.com/ Needless to say I have no affiliation with NRS,xcept as a happy customer. As to the West Coast kayak Symposium. I will be there as part of Seaward Kayaks marketing team. Seaward is my employer. Any paddlewiser will be assured of a warm welcome at the Seaward booth. c. banner Thetis Island. B.C. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ *************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Tony wrote >The first thing on my list is a new PFD. >My current one is getting pretty ratty >from practice self-rescue work and .... G'Day, My situation exactly. Need a new life jacket and looking at the Kokatat which is a PFD3. I'm a bit confused over what constitutes a suitable PFD for sea conditions. Over here its supposed to be a PFD 1 or 2 for offshore. But as far as i can tell the major difference between a PFD2 and a PFD3 is the colour and the Kokatat comes in a "mango" color which looks as though it should be clearly visible. I was attracted by the D rings and pockets for gear and EPIRB (or food bars). But maybe these also contrbute to the lower 'rating' 3 vs 2? Interested to hear what people think. All the best, PeterO *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
(Moderator's Note: Content unaltered. Excessive quoting (i.e. headers/footers/sig lines/comments from previous posts, etc.) have been removed. Please edit quoted material and list footers when replying to posts.) Just returned from a marvelous 9 days kayaking deep in Alaska's Prince William Sound. More on that later. But I wanted to chime in on Kokotat's "mango" color. A few people had this on the trip, and we all said how markedly more visible it was than the other PFDs. On the other hand, I found the Kokotat PFDs a bit too bulky, but I guess that is the price of extra flotation. Josh (Where the MED is still 30 degrees!) At 12:39 01/09/02, PeterO wrote: >as far as i can tell the major difference between a PFD2 and a PFD3 is the >colour and the Kokatat comes in a "mango" color which looks as though it >should be clearly visible. ============================================================================== Dr. Joshua Teitelbaum, Senior Research Fellow Tel: [972] 3-640-6448 Moshe Dayan Center for Middle Eastern and Fax: [972] 3-641-5802 African Studies Tel Aviv University Ramat Aviv, Tel Aviv 69978 Israel E-mail:teitelba_at_post.tau.ac.il www.dayan.org ============================================================================== *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
As usual SeaKayaker did a review of a number of paddling jackets recently. Don't recall the month but you could easily look it up on their website. As I recall they included the NRS over PFD jacket, but I think the balance were under the PFD. Kevin *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Chris said: <<< Hi There, Rain can be devestating for any kayaker who happens to get caught in a downpour. <snip> >>> I was paddling out of Bamfield this weekend. As it was only a short trip, I had room to bring a full-fledged rainproof parka with hood. It also worked well as a pillow while in its waterproof bag. It was sure nice to have in the cooler mornings and evening rain showers. On a longer trip I generally omit an item like this due to space considerations, instead wearing my wet paddling jacket with a rain hat and/or generally keep under a tarp or in the tent. I also carry a poncho on longer multi-day trips, wrapped in a small factory sealed package for emergency use. I have in the past used a more compressible (than the parka), older paddling jacket with hood that works great as a backup paddling jacket and as around camp rain wear. Trouble is it is not very comfortable for either. I'd kind of like to buy a rain jacket, full cut with hood, that is both _durable_ and compressible (totally waterproof/windproof). It need not be breathable. As for the original thread, I do not see the efficiency of a paddling jacket that fits over a PFD. But I've never tried it out or actually seen anyone using this type of garb. You also said: <<<As to the West Coast kayak Symposium. I will be there as part of Seaward Kayaks marketing team. Seaward is my employer. Any paddlewiser will be assured of a warm welcome at the Seaward booth. c. banner Thetis Island. B.C. >>> Hope your "jumping ship" is working out for you. Seaward are great folks, with a good product. I've seen a number of custom kevlar Seawards on the water, with nothing but praise from the owners. I had an impromptu race with one of them this weekend. It took a bit of work to overtake him, though a quartering fishboat wake from astern threw the Ascente (I believe) off course faster than the Nordkapp (the fellow was an good paddler). None of the Seaward owners I've bumped into lately have had any leakage problems. This isn't true with some of the Nimbus kayaks, and others. I notice Wendell Phillips is one of the noteworthy presenters at the symposium this year with his Greenland slides. Should be a good show (Wendel is such a great guy, and a Christian BTW who lives an truly ethical life). I can't make the symposium. Have fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Doug Lloyd *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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