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From: Koenigs <gyst_at_cox.net>
subject: [Paddlewise] Re. the fabled sp*ns*ns
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:51:38 -0600
Despite their generally (or at least locally) recognized lack of lifesaving
utility, Arthur Hebert felt that sponsons played a significant role in the
safety of his Gulf of Mexico crossing  in 1998, (
http://homepages.gs.net/seacajun/ ).  He deployed them nightly for 19 days to
stabilize his kayak while he caught 20 - 30 minute sleep segments between
scans of the horizon for approaching commercial ships.  Clearly, this is not a
standard use for a sponson but, ... it apparently worked for him.


I've never used 'em.


Larry Koenig





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From: John Blackburn <digipixs_at_erols.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Re. the fabled sp*ns*ns
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 11:02:13 -0800
Koenigs wrote:

> Despite their generally (or at least locally) recognized lack of lifesaving
> utility, Arthur Hebert felt that sponsons played a significant role in the
> safety of his Gulf of Mexico crossing  in 1998, (
> http://homepages.gs.net/seacajun/ ).  He deployed them nightly for 19 days to
> stabilize his kayak while he caught 20 - 30 minute sleep segments between
> scans of the horizon for approaching commercial ships.  Clearly, this is not a
> standard use for a sponson but, ... it apparently worked for him.

He also told me in a back channel exchange of e-mails that he used them for extra
stability when hoisting himself out of the cockpit to get to his hatches (food and
water storage) and position himself over a collapsible bucket he put in his seat
when those items eventually came out the other end!

John


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From: Fernando Lopez Arbarello <paddle.maui_at_verizon.net>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Re. the fabled sp*ns*ns
Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 09:15:33 -1000
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Koenigs wrote:

> Despite their generally (or at least locally) recognized lack of
lifesaving
> utility, Arthur Hebert felt that sponsons played a significant role in the
> safety of his Gulf of Mexico crossing  in 1998, (
> http://homepages.gs.net/seacajun/ ).  He deployed them nightly for 19 days
to
> stabilize his kayak while he caught 20 - 30 minute sleep segments between
> scans of the horizon for approaching commercial ships.  Clearly, this is
not a
> standard use for a sponson but, ... it apparently worked for him.

John Blackburn wrote:

>He also told me in a back channel exchange of e-mails that he used them for
extra
>stability when hoisting himself out of the cockpit to get to his hatches
(food and
>water storage) and position himself over a collapsible bucket he put in his
seat
>when those items eventually came out the other end!


And I said in my ironic and I recognize ( and apologize for that) up-tuned
reply to that offensive post from Mr. Bemis that sponsons are an
"involutive" devise ( something that interrupt, difficult, or even reverse
the evolutive precess, I don't know if this is correct ) with no good use at
all. And this last comment is not correct.

I am not against sponsons as well as I believe nobody on this list is. But I
think it we are talking here about two different situations, both true and
antagonist at the same time. One thing is when a very experienced paddler,
who already masters all the different paddling and rescue techniques, uses a
paddlefloat or sponson as a temporary aid for certain situation. He is using
them as a tool to improve his comfort or make things easier, but he does not
depend on them for safety. In other words, the sponson is not the only way
they could go thru that situation, it only makes it simple.

A different situation is a new paddler who is still learning the very basics
and finds in sponsons/paddlefloats an aid to gain stability and avoid
capsizing. Then they rely completely on the sponsons/paddlefloats to paddle
a kayak that without them would be too tippy for them. With the
sponsons/paddlefloats they feel safe and confident and ready to go
everywhere, and they do. As the boat feels stable they don't learn the
eskimo roll and as with the sponsons/paddlefloats is really easy to reenter
the kayak from the water, they believe they'll be able to do it under any
condition. And this why I say sponsons/paddlefloats cause confusion,
encouraging novice paddlers with a false sense of security that eventually
leads them into trouble. The worst of it being that they feel they are ready
and learning the advanced techniques is no longer necessary for "the kind of
paddling" they are planning to do. When this happens, with the
sponsons/paddlefloats they also bought a one way ticket to deep trouble ...

Sponsons and paddlefloats can be useful but never replace the efficiency of
a good rolling technique. We must develop and master all of the advanced
techniques for paddling, stability, and rescue, practicing constantly under
REAL conditions. The only way to know we can roll our kayak in stormy seas,
is after doing it in stormy seas. There are many ways to "safely" get in
trouble to practice and improve our skills on how to get out of it.

ADVANCED PADDLING SKILLS ARE ESSENTIAL AND PERMANENT - SPONSONS AND
PADDLEFLOATS MUST BE OPTIONAL AND TEMPORARY - ONE DOES NOT REPLACE THE
OTHERS.

Finally, over-reacting against whoever plans to make mandatory something
meant to be optional is more than justified. More when the experience proves
that by doing that they will encourage the happening of the very same
situations they say they are trying to avoid. More, when the only benefit is
for the unscrupulous manufacturer who will get the contract.

Fernando Lopez Arbarello .-
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