Anyone with experience on painting name and numbers onto plastic boats? What is best method? Paint? or Stickers? Type of paint? Free hand? Stencils? Spraycan? Brush? Thanks in advance for all responses and opinions. Phil *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
There is sign making vinyl that works fine on plastic untreated with 303. YOu can get a sign making store to cut stencils from either a picture or vector text. This is available in a multitude of different colored vinyl. The only surface I have been unsuccessful in sticking this vinyl is a Nordkapp that I refinished with graphite. Bay and Beyond Sea Kayak Tours wrote: > Anyone with experience on painting name and numbers onto plastic boats? > What is best method? Paint? or Stickers? Type of paint? Free hand? > Stencils? Spraycan? Brush? > > Thanks in advance for all responses and opinions. > -- gabriel l romeu ø http://studiofurniture.com ø ø http://journalphoto.org ø ø http://kayakoutfitting.org ø ø http://kayaknavigation.com ø *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
>>>There is sign making vinyl that works fine on plastic untreated with 303. YOu can get a sign making store to cut stencils from either a picture or vector text. This is available in a multitude of different colored vinyl. --Any name or designation for that material? Some years ago I made up a picture for the bow of my ww canoe. I used a laminating sheet of acetate with an adhesive back, and painted on it with Pelikan Acetate Ink, which is available in many colors. I then cut it out of the sheet, carefully cleaned the vinyl on the boat, and stuck it on. Lasted for 8 years or so.... Joe P. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
From: "Joe Pylka" <pylka_at_castle.net> > I then cut it out of > the sheet, carefully cleaned the vinyl on the boat, and stuck it on. Lasted > for 8 years or so.... If you want to make life a tad easier (though more expensive) you can get some auto signmaking outfits to make a vinyl pattern for you in more than one color. They can work from the output from a standard computer graphics program and they use a computer cutter to do the image. Look at this link and scroll down to the photo of Bert Millar, the bearded fellow in front of a green-decked Pintail. The kayak above him is an Ellesmere with a Haida-style fish design on the bow. I met him at a SK Symposium two years ago and he had the fish pattern made in this way. http://www.adventurekayakmag.com/Vol%201%20Iss%204/features_%20kits%20v1i4.html Bert made the design on the computer. It cost him C$50 (or was it C$75?) to have the design reproduced in vinyl. They loaded the graphics, manipulated it as required (including making two mirror images for either side of the hull) and cut the design. Since the pattern is now in-house, more copies will not cost as much (no new set-up charge). BTW - Bert is in the auto glass business and his business neighbour is the auto signmaking company that did the graphics, so he had the connections. I don't know if that price holds for the rest of us. Mike *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
This is > > > available in a multitude of different colored vinyl. > > > > > > --Any name or designation for that material? > > > > some are listed as 2-5 year outdoor use, some 10. -- gabriel l romeu ø http://studiofurniture.com ø ø http://journalphoto.org ø ø http://kayakoutfitting.org ø ø http://kayaknavigation.com ø *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> > Bert made the design on the computer. It cost him C$50 (or was it C$75?) > to have the design reproduced in vinyl. They loaded the graphics, manipulated > it as required (including making two mirror images for either side of the hull) > and cut the design. Since the pattern is now in-house, more copies will not > cost as much (no new set-up charge). Actually Michael, that sounds Canadian. It is a bit cheaper here, even cheaper for me as I use my stencil cutter that I use for sandblasting. It is basically a plotter with a cutter instead of a pen. Basically, they will take a drawing, scan it, and trace it as a vector drawing. I use Photoshop to clean it up then Vinyl Express software for the trace. The drawing can be fairly complex, but you should think of it in masses as oppossed to line drawings. Before the Vinyl cutter, I had some replacement dragons (a New Jersey derivitive) for the Welsh Dragons on the Romanys made by a sign cutter from a drawing. Cost less than 90.00 for about 20 different colored cuttings of the same image. As M. said, cheaper because of the single drawing. -- gabriel l romeu ø http://studiofurniture.com ø ø http://journalphoto.org ø ø http://kayakoutfitting.org ø ø http://kayaknavigation.com ø *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Gabriel L Romeu <romeug_at_erols.com> wrote: >There is sign making vinyl that works fine on plastic untreated with 303. YOu can get a sign making store to cut stencils from either a picture or vector text. I use the white stuff to make a foredeck nav. slate. Just cut out a rectangle (or whatever shape suits your fancy), and peel-n-stick it on the foredeck--mine's over my right knee...since I'm right-handed! Would an acetone wipe cut the 303? A tip I got from the sign guy I bought the vinyl from: you can mark on the vinyl with a Sharpie marker, and it won't come off at all under normal use. When you want to erase it, spray it with hairspray (aerosol can--contains acetone) and wipe it right off. For normal use, I use a Stabilo 'Aquarellable' waterproof pencil. You can find them at a local drafting supply store. The mark doesn't wash off easily, and it will write when wet--even on glass or smooth plastic. China marking pencils work well--I've seen eyeliner pencils used too, but they leave a bit too much residue for my taste. On the boat, that is ;) Shawn __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> > Would an acetone wipe cut the 303? > I don't know Shawn, I am a bit superstitious about using it. Generally, I try first with bestine or carbon tet. I had some older vinyl for a boat restored with graphite/epoxy mix and the vinyl didn't stick at all. -- gabriel l romeu ø http://studiofurniture.com ø ø http://journalphoto.org ø ø http://kayakoutfitting.org ø ø http://kayaknavigation.com ø *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Gabriel L Romeu <romeug_at_erols.com> wrote (in response to Shawn): > Would an acetone wipe cut the 303? >> I don't know Shawn, I am a bit superstitious about using it. Generally, I try first with bestine or carbon tet>> Gabriel, what's bestine? Also, carbon tet (carbon tetrachloride) .is a pretty nasty solvent, not normally available in the US. Maybe you have tetrachloroethylene (also a nasty one)? FWIW, I use windshield adhesive dissolver, available at auto shops. and __plenty__ of ventilation when I really need to get a chunk of hull clean. 303 demands that, or lacquer thinner, with a serious hot, soapy water scrubbing before and after. -- Dave Kruger Astoria, OR *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Dave Kruger wrote: > Gabriel L Romeu <romeug_at_erols.com> wrote (in response to Shawn): > > >>Would an acetone wipe cut the 303? > > >>>I don't know Shawn, I am a bit superstitious about using it. >> > Generally, I try first with bestine or carbon tet>> > > Gabriel, what's bestine? Hi Dave, I was hoping you would stop in for the more authoritative chemist based advice. Bestine is a solvent sold at art/ graphic supply stores for cleaning paper of things like rubber cement. > > Also, carbon tet (carbon tetrachloride) .is a pretty nasty solvent, not > normally available in the US. Maybe you have tetrachloroethylene (also a > nasty one)? > Probably the slang term for contact cleaner used on electrical components. > FWIW, I use windshield adhesive dissolver, available at auto shops. and > __plenty__ of ventilation when I really need to get a chunk of hull clean. > 303 demands that, or lacquer thinner, with a serious hot, soapy water > scrubbing before and after. Thanks for that DAve. -- gabriel l romeu ø http://studiofurniture.com ø ø http://journalphoto.org ø ø http://kayakoutfitting.org ø ø http://kayaknavigation.com ø *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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