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From: <DMon707_at_aol.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Deck/Underdeck storage?
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 16:45:30 EST
<<Coming from a background of folding kayaks, there have always been good
underdeck bags available.>>

Ralph, as a Feathercraft K-1 paddler, I gave up on underdeck bags a long time 
ago. I'm 6'2". It's hard enough getting in and out of the boat in a hurry as 
it is! And then add a sea sock and the whole launching (or landing) can 
become slapstick. (Doug Simpson just HAS to come up with a longer sea sock-- 
one size DOESN'T fit all). I carry a small, clear drybag on my lap, but that 
has to stay on deck until I'm launched.

douglas
sf


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From: Dave Kruger <kdruger_at_pacifier.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Deck/Underdeck storage?
Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 20:16:36 -0800
Two solutions:

Under-deck:;  I bungied a piece of 4-inch-D PVC sewer pipe (the white
version is thinner-walled, and lighter) to the underside of my fiberglass
single, so I could remove it for safe storage and use in camp.  Glued an end
cap on one end and left the other a slip fit.  Never leaked.  My paddling
bud glassed his in.  this space is good for a water bottle, sun glasses,
power bar, extra charts, etc.

Top-of-deck:  Similar to Steve Scherrer, I also modified a small fanny pack
that had holders for water bottles on each side and a zip-up center to
attach, via bungies, to the padeyes on the deck.  It's not waterproof, but
anything I want dry I enclose in a zip-lock.  I would not trust this with
something valuable like a camera or non-waterproof binocs, but for stuff
like a fleece hat, food, etc., it works well.  I'll email a picture of the
mods to anybody interested.

Like others, I don't like having a cluttered deck, especially in rough
conditions.  But, having ready access to water without the hassle of a
camelback, and having ready access to food is important on a long stretch
without access to shore.

--
Dave Kruger
Astoria, OR

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From: <JCMARTIN43_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Deck/Underdeck storage?
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 07:02:38 EST
The Pintail offers one option that many boats don't, Jim --- a relatively 
flat foredeck.  Can't speak to the keyhole cockpit version, but the old 
"ocean cockpit" rim allows the placement of a four inch Viking deckplate with 
a suspended orange nylon bag good for keeping several small items readily at 
hand.  (A "fat bag" is also available, holding more but also taking up most 
of the room between the paddler's knees --- a tradeoff.)  It's my "glovebox", 
it's in front of me, and it's easy to access but equally easy and quick to 
secure.  (It's also a great pressure relief valve when just loosened --- 
allows a foot or electric pump to empty out the cockpit without generating a 
partial vacuum inside the cockpit, slowing the emptying process.)  

A valuable $25 option.

Jack Martin

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From: ralph diaz <rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Deck/Underdeck storage?
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 18:34:40 -0500
> Ralph, as a Feathercraft K-1 paddler, I gave up on underdeck bags a long
time
> ago. I'm 6'2". It's hard enough getting in and out of the boat in a hurry
as
> it is! And then add a sea sock and the whole launching (or landing) can
> become slapstick. (Doug Simpson just HAS to come up with a longer sea
sock--
> one size DOESN'T fit all). I carry a small, clear drybag on my lap, but
that
> has to stay on deck until I'm launched.

I don't use a seasock.  So I can attach a bag to the underside of the deck
bar in front of me.  I know some people who sew in a daisy chain into the
sea sock and attach things inside the cockpit that way.

ralph diaz

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From: Matt Broze <mkayaks_at_oz.net>
subject: Re:[Paddlewise] Deck/Underdeck storage?
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 14:52:14 -0800
Douglas wrote:

>>>>>>. (Doug Simpson just HAS to come up with a longer sea sock--
one size DOESN'T fit all).<<<<<

Doug Simpson/Feathercraft has two sizes of sea sock the S/P and the L/G. You
must have the smaller S/P size.

Matt Broze
http://www.marinerkayaks.com


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