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From: Bill Chitty <chitty_at_swissinfo.org>
subject: [Paddlewise] Paddle Float Storage?
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 22:05:28 -0600
My roll technique needs work, so I bought a paddle float for wet exit
re-entry.  Does Anyone have suggestions for secure storage on / in the boat?
I'm concerned with making sure it stays put in an accessible spot but still
allows cold fingers to easily un hook it from the boat.





Thanks!


Bill Chitty





email: gwchitty_at_swissinfo.org 


website: www.geocities.com/gwchitty 



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From: Steve Scherrer <flatpick_at_teleport.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Paddle Float Storage?
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 07:25:42 -0800
Bill asks:

<<Does Anyone have suggestions for secure storage on / in the boat?>>


NOT ON THE DECK!  I see sooo many pumps and paddlefloats part from the deck
and wash out to sea.  Not to mention waterbottles.

I roll it up and slide it between the side of the seat and the hull or stuff
it somewhere in the cockpit so it'll stay put until needed.

NOT topsides!

steve


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From: PeterO <rebyl_kayak_at_iprimus.com.au>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Paddle Float Storage? (and vegemite)
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 07:44:09 +1100
Bill asks:
>Does Anyone have suggestions for secure storage on
>in the boat

Steve commented
>I roll it up and slide it between the side of the seat
>and the hull or stuff it somewhere in the cockpit so
>it'll stay put until needed.

G'Day,
		I do the same as Steve but have also fibreglassed a stainless steel ring
between the seat and side of the hull through which the strap for the
paddlefloat goes so it can't be washed out of the cockpit during a wet exit.
I've tried undoing the strap many times during practise rescue sessions with
no problems. My old paddlefloat has now been replaced and the new one comes
with a long cord attached so I'm about to try using it with the cord
connected to this ring.

The steel ring is also a useful attachment point for securing the boat
against theft!

And for attaching bags of vegemite, which is not only very good for you but
tastes marvellous as well and will improve your paddlefloat technique and
the Australian economy no end if only you eat enough of it!!

All the best, PeterO
(Who doesn't own any shares in Vegemite but is merely a very satisfied
customer)


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From: <Kevin50110_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Paddle Float Storage?
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 10:40:33 EST
Flatpick warns against storing you float on deck, pump too. I use a Greenland 
paddle and so have only found 1 float to really fit the blade, and it has a 
strap with a plastic buckle to secure it to a deck line. That will probably 
stay attached but without it, I'm sure it would be 1 more piece of flotsam. 
Same with a pump. I try to store everything I don't want to lose below, 
except on flatwater where I know nothing will be stressed, (day trips). My 
jacket though is carried on the rear deck at risk. Kevin

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From: Chuck Holst <cholst_at_bitstream.net>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Paddle Float Storage?
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 12:54:42 -0600
I mounted a couple of small-diameter bungee cords on the after bulkhead of 
my Romany's cockpit. The bungees run vertically, and hold one or two folded 
paddle floats against the bulkhead quite nicely. I find it quite easy to 
remove the paddle float after a capsize and exit or by reaching behind me 
if somebody else needs it.

To mount the bungee cords, I made fittings of fiberglass and tent pole 
sections. To make similar fittings, scuff up a piece of small-diameter 
aluminum tent pole about three or four inches long with coarse sandpaper, 
and lay it on a flat sheet of plastic -- a freezer-weight gallon Zip-loc 
bag will do. Mix up some West System or equivalent epoxy resin and brush it 
onto the pole section and onto the plastic for about an inch on either side 
of the pole section. Center a piece of fiberglass cloth about 3 inches long 
by two inches wide over the pole section, and gently prod it into the resin 
using a matchstick. Brush more resin on the cloth until it is saturated.  
 Lay another plastic bag over the assembly and weight it down by placing a 
chunk of two-by-four on either side of the pole section, almost touching 
it. Let the resin cure, then peel off the plastic and slice the pole 
section and fiberglass into four pieces, each about 3/4 inch long, using a 
hacksaw or, preferably, a cutting disk on a Dremel Moto Tool or similar 
small grinder. Trim excess fiberglass with a scissor, and remove any burrs 
or sharp edges with a sharp knife such as an X-Acto knife with a number 11 
blade.

To mount the fittings on a fiberglass bulkhead, mark where you want the 
fittings, and then roughen the areas slighty with sandpaper. Also roughen 
the flat bottoms of the fittings. For holding a paddle float, the fittings 
should be mounted in pairs with the tubes of each pair in line, so that you 
could sight through them if the cockpit coaming weren't in the way. They 
should be at least an inch farther apart than the folded paddle float is 
wide. If possible, stand the kayak on end, bow up. Mix up more epoxy, apply 
it to the fitting bottoms, place the fittings on the bulkhead, and tape 
them in place until the epoxy sets.

Now tie a figure-eight knot in the end of a length of bungee just small 
enough to fit through the tubes of your new fittings. Push the other end of 
the bungee through one of the two in-line pairs of fittings. Stretch it to 
the tension you want, and tie a figure-eight knot in the other end of the 
bungee. The bulk of the knots should be large enough to keep them from 
slipping through the fittings. Do the same with your other pair of 
fittings. Then insert your paddlefloat, check the tension of the bungees, 
adjust if necessary, and cut off any excess bungee.

These fittings, which are fairly low-profile, also work for tethering a 
hatch cover to the inside of its compartment.

Chuck Holst



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From: Michael Daly <michaeldaly_at_rogers.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Paddle Float Storage?
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 16:23:28 -0500
I use a paddle float that has Fastex buckles to fasten 'round the
paddle shaft.  To put it in the kayak, I made up short loops
of webbing with matching Fastex buckles and some tri-glides
and attached the webbing bits to the line that holds my seat
back in the kayak.  A bit of elastic keeps the float rolled
up and I just clip it in behind the seat.  No sewing involved.

I threw this together to show the bits:
http://members.rogers.com/michaeldaly2/paddleFloatAttach.htm

Mike

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From: Steve Holtzman <sh_at_actglobal.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Paddle Float Storage?
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 17:34:38 -0800
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Scherrer" <flatpick_at_teleport.com>
> NOT ON THE DECK!  I see sooo many pumps and paddlefloats part from the
deck
> and wash out to sea.  Not to mention waterbottles.
>
> I roll it up and slide it between the side of the seat and the hull or
stuff
> it somewhere in the cockpit so it'll stay put until needed.

I second this. In addition, I take the strap with the fastek buckles on it
and clip it around the seat pillar so that the float stays in until needed.
My pump fits in the same place, just underneath the paddle float.

Kayaks in the ocean (where they truly belong) should have a clean deck. Junk
on the foredeck interferes with both paddling and rescues.

Steve Holtzman
S. CA


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From: Gordon Snapp <grsnapp_at_charter.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Paddle Float Storage?
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 18:12:18 -0600
I have discovered that my paddle float is the key to keeping my long legs


from getting numb.  I put a little air into it so that it is semi-inflated,


then put it just in front of the front of my seat.  It provides some support


for my legs.  It works like a charm!





However, I was concerned that sitting on it might lead to its failing one of


these days, so I bought a second one.  Mine have plastic clips on them, so


the one I sit on clips to the strap holding the backband, and I put the


other one on the aft deck, rolled up under the bungie, with the clip


attached to the bungie.





- G. Snapp









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