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From: Doug Lloyd <dalloyd_at_telus.net>
subject: [Paddlewise] Back Rest Revolt!
Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 18:53:14 -0700
Mr. Roll Or Drown said (snip):

>As an experiment, I recently removed the back bands, and so far I haven't
missed them. Are there any other sea kayakers out there paddling without any
kind of a back rest?<

I chucked mine years ago. Do enough paddling and you don't really need back
support. As a compromise, I formed my own rear-of-seat bulkhead that slopes
forward, angled down from the cockpit coaming to just behind the seat, in a
wraparound style. This was then lightly padded. By resting backwards
slightly, I can get a bit of temporary support (water removal is way-easy
too by simply lifting the bow with the kayak on its side).

Doug Lloyd (now Duane, the only thing I want to know from you is how come
California is doing so well in baseball and hockey)  :-)


Victoria BC

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From: <bobvolin_at_optonline.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Back Rest Revolt!
Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 08:49:34 -0400
You make a good point, Duane...
    Although removing the back band might be a wee bit radical, there's no denying that I get a more efficient, more powerful forward stroke when I lean forward just a bit -- maybe 10-15 degrees. In that position, there is little or no pressure on the backband.  I'm thinking, now that you mention it, that I don't put much pressure on my backband unless I'm sorta wriggling in the boat to resettle myself.
   Bob 

>Like raising 
> the training wheels
> on a bike, my back bands were moved back to the point that they really
> weren't providing very much for support. As an experiment, I recently
> removed the back bands, and so far I haven't missed them. Are 
> there any
> other sea kayakers out there paddling without any kind of a back rest?


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From: Shawn Baker <shawnkayak_at_yahoo.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Back Rest Revolt!
Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 20:08:39 -0700 (PDT)
Me.  I have a custom glass seat in my most-often paddled boat.  It
comes no higher than the top of my pelvis.  Never had a backrest.

Shawn

On Wed, 14 May 2003, Strosaker wrote:
> Are there any other sea kayakers out there paddling without any kind
of a back rest?

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From: <FoldingBoats_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Back Rest Revolt!
Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 10:20:53 EDT
In a message dated 5/15/2003 11:09:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, 


shawnkayak_at_yahoo.com writes:





> ... Me.  I have a custom glass seat in my most-often paddled boat.  It comes

> no higher than the top of my pelvis.  Never had a backrest. ...





My first glass touring boat had an integral molded seat hanging from the 


cockpit rim. There were no provisions for a backrest with that seat and I 


never missed it even back then (during "the early years" :-). That boat had 


no provisions for foot rests either, nor did I miss them -- I paddled with my

heels together and my knees splayed out -- and jammed under the deck if the 


conditions called for serious boat control. That minimal set-up served me 


well for years on fresh and salt water, in flat calm and somewhat breezier 


conditions, whether out for an afternoon (or early morning) or for a few 


days. I reckon that the leg position I describe above makes it easier for me 



to hold my torso erect and slightly forward of vertical, which seems to help 



me more with a strong and efficient stroke than any amount of cockpit 


outfitting. 





Then again I've come to appreciate bits of cockpit outfitting to provide 


greater comfort over the years ...





:-)





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Ralph





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