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From: <Needfreed_at_wmconnect.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Shipping Kayaks
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 19:02:46 EDT
Hi,

I may be selling my Prijon Kodiak and would appreciate advice on shipping it 
in the continental states. All I know from my previous shipping experience is 
that it'll be an LTL shipment.

1) Is securely wrapping it in heavy duty foam and designating "top load only" 
acceptable? I've seen boats shipped that way before, but I talked to a guy 
(probably in the goober category) at a local trucking outfit who seemed to think 
it should be crated.

2) Any recommendations on carriers that may be more kayak friendly?

3) Any ideas on what it might cost to ship it coast to coast (17' / approx. 
70#)?

4) ANY advice welcomed!

I appreciate this list. TIA,


Mike
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From: Brian Curtiss <bc_at_asdi.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Shipping Kayaks
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 08:04:31 -0600
Mike wrote:
>I may be selling my Prijon Kodiak and would appreciate advice on shipping it
>in the continental states.
>
>1) Is securely wrapping it in heavy duty foam and designating "top load only"
>acceptable? I've seen boats shipped that way before....

I just shipped a CD Storm from Denver to LA.  I purchase a roll of 
"pallet wrap" at a local packing store (this stuff comes on a 
cardboard tube and is about 18" wide --- basically just industrial 
strength Saran wrap). I then got several large cardboard boxes from a 
local lighting shop --- they get lots of stuff from the orient: this 
type of cardboard seems more flexible.  I then 'deconstructed' the 
boxes into 2-3' wide strips, rolled the strips as tightly as possible 
to make them flexible, unrolled them and wrapped these around the 
boat.  I secured each cardboard strip with the pallet wrap.  When I 
was done, I had a boat encased in cardboard and overwrapped in 
plastic.  I labeled it "Plastic Kayak" --- "Fragile" --- "Top Load 
Only".

>...I talked to a guy (probably in the goober category) at a local 
>trucking outfit who seemed to think it should be crated.

That would be the case for a fiberglass boat.

>2) Any recommendations on carriers that may be more kayak friendly?

I used Forward Air <http://www.forwardair.com> --- they came 
recommended by several folks for shipping kayaks.  They only ship 
terminal to terminal, so they are only an option if you and the 
person on the other end live close to one of their terminals.  Also, 
they won't insure a kayak against damage (loss only) --- both the 
customer service person and the guy measuring the boat said that they 
ship lots of kayaks and have never lost one.

>3) Any ideas on what it might cost to ship it coast to coast (17' / approx.
>70#)?

Due to the low density of the kayak, weight is irrelevant.  They 
charge based on volume.  The volumetric weight of the kayak I sent 
was 280 lbs. and the cost for Denver to LA was $62.  The guy who 
measured it was pretty generous; shaving a few inches off the width 
and height.  Measured more accurately, it probably would have been in 
the $80-100 range.

Brian
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From: Kirk Olsen <kork4_at_cluemail.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Shipping Kayaks
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 09:35:22 -0500
On Mon, 2 Jun 2003 19:02:46 EDT, Needfreed_at_wmconnect.com said:

> I may be selling my Prijon Kodiak and would appreciate advice on shipping
> it in the continental states. All I know from my previous shipping
> experience is 
> that it'll be an LTL shipment.
> 
> 1) Is securely wrapping it in heavy duty foam and designating "top load
> only" acceptable? I've seen boats shipped that way before, but I talked to a
> guy (probably in the goober category) at a local trucking outfit who seemed
> to think 
> it should be crated.

I recently got a new surf ski shipped from southern california to
Massachusetts.
I posted about this then, but you are new to the list...

The surf ski is 21' long and weighed 32 pounds before packaging.  It cost
$281 to ship
via Yellow Freight and I picked it up at the terminal.  It was wrapped in
a tyvek/foam
cover (which I had purchased) plus 3 individual wraps of heavy white
packing foam.  Then
the whole beast was wrapped with plastic wrap.  Each layer of packing
foam was individually
taped.  The boat was shipped as top freight only and had been insured. 
It arrived unscathed.  It looked like a giant marijauna joint 

There was an alternative shipper called something like "independent canoe
haulers" which
charges more, but it's a trucker who just delivers canoes and kayaks.  I
had prefered to use
him but he left the west coast the week before my boat was ready to ship.
 My quick pathetic web search didn't locate them.  Others may know more.

Before deciding on that boat I looked into getting a boat shipped from
Hawaii.  The Hawaiian manufacturer ships the boats in a shipping crate.

Kirk
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  Kirk Olsen
  kork4_at_cluemail.com
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