I've contemplated a double, but I was thinking of using it with one of my kids, not my wife. I don't know if that adds anything to the discussion, but I thought I'd mention it. My kids can't divorce me, can they? *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Gordon wrote: "My kids can't divorce me, can they?" . . . so many possible responses; so little time. Tom Joyce (father of 4) ------------------------------------------ The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, any further disclosure or use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message or any attachment is strictly prohibited. If you think that you have received this e-mail message in error, please delete it and notify the sender. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
At 08:49 p.m. 11/06/03 -0500, Gordon Snapp wrote: >I've contemplated a double, but I was thinking of using it with one of my >kids, not my wife. I don't know if that adds anything to the discussion, but >I thought I'd mention it. My kids can't divorce me, can they? We did something unusual to consider that possibility. If the bow rider is lighter like a kid or a pet, the double will tend to leecock. So we added a front skeg. If the front rider is too light and unbalances the boat, we lower the front skeg as needed and compensate for that. It can even be paddled by only one person in the stern. The tricks works always if you always sit the heavier paddler in the stern. And following Duane comment it is the lighter paddler who gets the wetting in the surf launch. Best Regards, Rafael www.mayanseas.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Snapp" <grsnapp_at_charter.net> > I've contemplated a double, but I was thinking of using it with one of my > kids, not my wife. I don't know if that adds anything to the discussion, but > I thought I'd mention it. My kids can't divorce me, can they? Some interesting things of paddling doubles on Paddlewise while I was away for the day. I devoted an entire chapter of my Complete Folding Kayaker book to the issues and practices of paddling a double kayak in both the original 1994 version and in the 2nd Edition that came out this Spring. I believe it is the most thorough coverage of the subject in any sea kayaking book. Most never even cover double boats at all where as I go into how they paddle differently and the difference techniques for rescues etc. involved in being in one. The book is in so many libraries that you don't even have to enrich my pockets to take a look at the chapter (I get about a buck a book royalty...so I ain't going to get very rich :-)). The reason I devoted a chapter to the subject is that traditionally the folding kayak world has or had been dominated by them. I think more and more the folding singles are dominating the new market. Some things to think about: --Paul Theroux, who wrote the Foreword, to my book once said "Those who paddle a double kayak should be nominated for sainthood." It ain't that bad but it does depend on one's personality. My wife and I hardly paddle our double anymore because we have lots of fun with singles but when we do it is a wonderful way to bond again and see the world as a couple, which is something that is so easy to lose sight of in this busy world couples lead apart from each other. --As for having a double to paddle with a kid, by all means, do so. It is a terrific way to bond with a child of any age. I have seen guys and their kids take great enjoyment of each other as the paddle together from the time the child is old enough to be trusted not to jump overboard and drag a fishing net. When my son came back from Desert Storm, we had a great time in a double paddling out of West Point in one of the lovliest piece of water around, the Hudson Highlands, and with, of course, the added value of being in such a hallowed place as that historical site. Doubles are so inexpensive in plastic form ($1,000 or so) and in some of the foldables such as from Folbot or Foldingcraft, that these are also affordable. If you are currently in singles and have someone particularly important in your life who is a fellow paddler, get one of these. You may not want to do your entire time on the water in a double but you will likely find it a reward experience even if done just a few times a year. It is a priceless experience that is not priceless to purchase. ralph diaz-- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralph Diaz . . . Folding Kayaker newsletter PO Box 0754, New York, NY 10024 Tel: 212-724-5069; E-mail: rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com "Where's your sea kayak?"----"It's in the bag." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> ralph diaz wrote: > > I devoted an entire chapter of my Complete Folding Kayaker book to the > issues and practices of paddling a double kayak in both the original 1994 > version and in the 2nd Edition that came out this Spring. > The book is in so many libraries that you don't even > have to enrich > my pockets to take a look at the chapter > There are two copies of the 1994 edition in the Hamilton, New Zealand library system, and one always seems to be in our suburban branch library when I want to refer to it (several times over quite a few years). I will keep a lookout for the second edition. At present I have two more books on loan by authors whose names are familiar from Paddlewise. These are: 1. The Optimum Kayak, by Andy Knapp, which I found to be an interesting read, and would be happy to have a copy of my own on my bookshelf. 2. The Strip-Built Sea Kayak, By Nick Schade. I don't want to give this back to the library! Just looking at the cover makes you want to build one. Unfortunately I have too many other distractions in life to be able to start right now, but I could go and check what tools I have... So what other books should I be watching out for? Allan Singleton (Rear cockpit double paddler for many years, married for many more) *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
In light of the back and forth on this I wonder what the long timers view of the compromise Feathercraft has in the Klondike. Being riggable on a whim as a double, single, or even a 2+1 with a small third seat in the middle for a young child or well behaved 4 legged family member. This doesn't help if you virtually always are going to paddle with your partner, but it's pretty flexible, and does leave you the option for some single experience, it'll certainly hold a mountain of gear when rigged as a single. Craig Bowers *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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