In a message dated 7/28/2003 4:42:04 AM Pacific Daylight Time, ptreby_at_ozemail.com.au writes: > Look out, many words... > > > A minimum volume cockpit doesn't prevent a reasonable amount of cockpit > storage. Doesn't a sea sock make access to things stored in the cockpit a > little difficult? (My inexperience with sea socks is showing). Yes. It either sits on your lap, in a deck bag, or is stored semi-permanently behind the cordura curtain. If it is on your lap it can or will be lost if you bail out. A deck bag will be subject to the stress of surf. Behind the cordura curtain makes it dangerous to access in many boat designs, particular if the seas are up and you are not rafted up (IMHO). I adjust my kit for sea sock usage. I bag my water and carry it in a pfd mounted hydration bladder. The risk is the amount of weight should I deign to roll, but it isn't that big of a deal. The deck bag I carry is fastex buckled to my deck lines and is a very low profile watershed, but not the one they sell as a deck bag. I think that one is too big, even. Leon Somme told me his chart clipped to the deck lines caught the full force of a boomer and stripped his deck lines from the boat. clean deck anyone? Or at least make the deck bag quickly removable. > "tell me where I can buy "good" foot pumps that don't have these problems > and can that empty the cockpit as fast as a stout hand pump." > My foot pump is set up like the description at > http://www.nswseakayaker.asn.au/ (search for newsletter #35, at "The Old Sea > Dog's Locker) It empties the boat in around 10 minutes, from a full flood. > That's a long time to pump, and sure you can cramp or get sore feet. You can > also probably suffer similar difficulties hand pumping. With the usual > amount of water in the cockpit after a re-enter and roll, the pump out takes > about 6 minutes 10 minutes? Yikes! I think those were the ones Matt was talking about ; ). The Henderson on my former boat was about 35-40 percent of that, though I'm pretty big and that boat was low volume. I have an Attwood D Cell on my Nordkapp Jubilee and it takes about 5 minutes. I do agree with Matt that I had to unhook a knee to make a foot pump work on the former boat. I also find the size 12's are uncomfortable in that position but they survive multiple practice attempts fine. > > Have you ever had a sea sock come off with the spray skirt? How secure are > they? How do you access the cockpit storage? No. The Feathercraft version I have has a neoprene lip and is quite secure. See above for retrieval of necessities. > "With them I don't need no stinking leaky hatches filling up the kayak with > water where I can't get to it behind the bulkhead." > Well, build the bulkheads properly and use VCP hatches. Airtight. > "I don't have a bow hatch spraying water into my glasses with every wave > when beating into steep head sea either." > I have never noticed this to be a problem. Spray comes from all directions, > not usually avoidable, and not just from a hatch cover. > VCP and NDK hatches are extremely dry. The Jubilee version of the nordkapp has them recessed and they do not kick up spray. The Khatsalano does throw spray but the roll up hatches have never leaked on me. > > Actually, Matt, reading your response here, I would like to try a sea sock > at some stage. But the main disadvantage of a sea sock seems, to me, to be > that you can't use a foot pump with it! How about a design for a super sea > sock, with built in electric pump? > Cheers, PT. The only scenario I could see for this working is a Lendal LV foot pump or a lightweight electric with the outtake sewn into the sock and the intake suspended high enough to not suck fabric. A reinforced area on the footwell would have to be able to provide stability for the pumping or the mounting of an electric. Then again, none of my experiences with a seasock would warrant it. They seemed to not take in much water and standard dumping gets it out quick. Water taken in by reentry is quickly taken out by a hand pump with the stability provided by a buddy rafted up. Interestingly, When one is seated in a seasock the vaccum pressure of the cockpit is usually sufficient to hold the fabric in place for reentry, though not always. They are not the be all and end all, but > > Rob G *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************Received on Tue Jul 29 2003 - 17:46:12 PDT
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