Look out, many words... "A minimum volume cockpit is nice in theory and for those who get their kayaks custom made for them" You can reduce the volume of a boat that isn't custom made.If you have had a real world, cold, troublesome rescue, perhaps you do this, so as to have everything going for you. "Most who don't have a day hatch want to be able to carry water, extra clothing, rain hat and other items they want handy somewhere in the cockpit and are frustrated by cockpit pods and minimum volume cockpits." A minimum volume cockpit doesn't prevent a reasonable amount of cockpit storage. Doesn't a sea sock make access to things stored in the cockpit a little difficult? (My inexperience with sea socks is showing). "I'm for doing what ever works best for the situation." OK, why wouldn't a fixed outrigger rescue be improved by a hands free pump? You have your hands available to refit the spray skirt, get ready for recovering the paddle, composing yourself. You could use a foot and hand pump together, and get the bail out done quicker. "tell me where I can buy "good" foot pumps that don't have these problems and can that empty the cockpit as fast as a stout hand pump." My foot pump is set up like the description at http://www.nswseakayaker.asn.au/ (search for newsletter #35, at "The Old Sea Dog's Locker) It empties the boat in around 10 minutes, from a full flood. That's a long time to pump, and sure you can cramp or get sore feet. You can also probably suffer similar difficulties hand pumping. With the usual amount of water in the cockpit after a re-enter and roll, the pump out takes about 6 minutes "and do this easily while I also concentrate on paddling and bracing with water sloshing side to side in the cockpit." You're setting the barrier too high if we are comparing hand pumping and foot pumping. Hand pumping cannot be done easily while paddling and bracing. Foot pumping can at least be done while paddling, hand pumping practically cannot. "Sea socks minimize the cockpit volume more than most bulkheads." Have you ever had a sea sock come off with the spray skirt? How secure are they? How do you access the cockpit storage? "With them I don't need no stinking leaky hatches filling up the kayak with water where I can't get to it behind the bulkhead." Well, build the bulkheads properly and use VCP hatches. Airtight. "I don't have a bow hatch spraying water into my glasses with every wave when beating into steep head sea either." I have never noticed this to be a problem. Spray comes from all directions, not usually avoidable, and not just from a hatch cover. "Please read the Flotation manual on our website..." Your website articles are great. Together they are one of the best guides to paddling and rescues. Why don't you put them in a book? I am prepared to write an addendum about hands free pumps. "I find it a lot more convenient to load a few big buoyant dry bags" Do you restrain these in any way? If not, could they cause problems by moving, either with the paddler in the boat, or coming free and even escaping the boat if the paddler is elsewhere? Reaching forward to clip in restraints for the forward bag could be awkward. "The outrigger stabilizes you at a time when you have been shaken by a capsize.." Good point. Paddling away while pumping away at the foot pump gets you warm and in control. "I wonder if you have ever tried using a fixed outrigger paddle float in rough conditions?" Not as rough as Steve's example, but I have played with a fixed outrigger in 15+ knots, and 1-1,5 metre breaking chop, rough enough to be plenty unstable for a boat full of water. I am not going to argue that it's not good to have the paddlefloat outrigger as a possible recovery, but why not incorporate a hands free pump with it? "tried hand pumping in rough conditions without a fixed outrigger[?]" Yes, without much success at all. Try one handed sculling with the paddle behind the neck, and pump with the other. Really silly. Sliding the hand pump down the tube of the skirt is troublesome to sensitive body parts. Shoving it down the front of the cockpit and grabbing it with your knees is a circus act. "A standard assisted T was almost impossible, until we incorporated the paddlefloat re-entry with it." Re-reading this, I am unsure how the paddlefloat re-entry was incorporated with a T rescue. Did one paddler self rescue with a paddlefloat fixed outrigger, and another stand by to raft up and help stabilise on the other side from the paddlefloat? Actually, Matt, reading your response here, I would like to try a sea sock at some stage. But the main disadvantage of a sea sock seems, to me, to be that you can't use a foot pump with it! How about a design for a super sea sock, with built in electric pump? 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