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From: Joan Spinner <jspinner_at_peoplepc.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] break the paddle?
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 17:36:41 -0400
With all this about securing the paddle and then looking at that strap
system I have to ask, how many people have broken paddles putting them under
the deck lines instead of the bungees? I did that several years ago and have
been afraid to use non-stretch materials for paddle float work since then.

Joan

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From: Richard Culpeper <culpeper_at_tbaytel.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] break the paddle?
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 22:51:11 -0400
I have seen a paddle broken under bungees.

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From: <cholst_at_bitstream.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] break the paddle?
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 15:27:12 -0500
Quoting Joan Spinner <jspinner_at_peoplepc.com>:

> With all this about securing the paddle and then looking at that strap
> system I have to ask, how many people have broken paddles putting them under
> the deck lines instead of the bungees? I did that several years ago and have
> been afraid to use non-stretch materials for paddle float work since then.

I broke a Greenland paddle this way. I was experimenting with using two paddles 
under the foredeck safety lines to stabilize the kayak without floats while 
getting back in. I think the method might work to stabilize the kayak while 
pumping out, though.

Chuck Holst 

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From: Keith Wrage <keith.wrage_at_charter.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] break the paddle?
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 16:01:46 -0500
I realize that in the past there was an article in Sea Kayaker mag that 
covered various deck riggings for the fixed paddlefloat recovery - but by 
any chance does anyone have some pics of the various methods - available 
via personal email or a website somewhere?  I don't have the article 
available to me.  I've tried the bungees that are already on on my deck - 
but my 250 lb, 6'8" frame tended to simply overpower them in terms of 
holding the paddle in place.  I've gotten better in my technique in terms 
of less force on the paddle - but still, if I'm going to go fixed, then I 
want it fixed.

Thanks in advance,
Keith

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From: Joan Spinner <jspinner_at_peoplepc.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] break the paddle?
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 18:08:36 -0400
Yea, it was my fairly NEW Greenland paddle that broke. I was very sad. I'd
made it and it was a really nice thing to paddle with. Now I use the junk to
practice with. That stuff never breaks because I don't care if it does.

Joan

> I broke a Greenland paddle this way. I was experimenting with using two
paddles
> under the foredeck safety lines to stabilize the kayak without floats
while
> getting back in. I think the method might work to stabilize the kayak
while
> pumping out, though.


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From: Doug Lloyd <dalloyd_at_telus.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] break the paddle?
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 23:15:25 -0700
Keith said (snip):
>I realize that in the past there was an article in Sea Kayaker mag...I
don't have the article available to me.  I've tried the bungees that are
already on on my deck...simply overpower them in terms of holding the paddle
in place.<

Keith,
Send me your address and I'll mail you a copy. Try heavier shock cord or
double-up what you have. Keep the paddle blade (if curved) with the concave
side down to the deck, which is easier to slide on and off. Keep practicing.
With a fixed outrigger, if you start to submerge the float more than six
inches, bail to the other side lest you snap the shaft of the paddle.

Doug Lloyd
Victoria BC

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