Peter Treby wrote, At 09:54 a.m. 26/07/2003 +1000, Peter Treby wrote: >Matt, have you ever had a boat with a >good foot pump? All this clowning around with a fixed outrigger and hand >pumping can be avoided. >I should add that I usually take a paddlefloat, for the certainty of a >paddlefloat re-enter and roll. But I'd try everything else before resorting >to it. And hand pumping is a joke in rough conditions that have caused a >capsize. Far better to paddle away while pumping I am amazed and surprised, to see all the comments in this issue. Certainly I don`t have the authority of many old experienced kayakers and instructors but the few thousand rolls and rescues made during more than two years trying to learn to be self sufficient have carried me to try almost everything. Right now I can roll with confidence and I am able to speak with a certain degree of veracity since I have swallowed more sea water than many here. I have reached to some conclusions during the discussion. 1.- There are several solutions to the rescue after a wet exit. 2.- None of them is the ultimate solution, and some work to some and some work to others, and it will depend on the paddling conditions, which solution is the best. 3.- We owe to Matt Broze the basic, fundamental, great development of the paddle float rescue technique, but things evolve, and giving the adequate recognition, we must agree that over a great idea, other ideas also come to improve things, and that is the progress of mankind. 4.- The solutions will depend on people abilites and tastes. Examples. I have seen guys using the paddelfloat rescue, placing the paddle behind the cockpit and being so skilled, they donīt need to to tie the paddle and spend some minutes in cold water. Others place it under the bungies and others have devices to hold the paddle. On the other hand if one has a foot or electric pump, it doesnīt matter if he reenters and rolls or uses the paddlefloat rescue technique. 5.- Among the preferences, some people, (like myself) prefer to get out of the water as soon as possible, and avoid hanging the legs towards the unknown depths and therefore prefer to use a paddlefloat reentry and roll and then spend more time pumping, using the cockpit as an outrigger support, even in medium rough waters. I have described it in detail and really works. Just place the free blade under the cockpit thigh brace and hold it with your leg, while pumping. 6.- Some people really do prefer climbing up behind the paddle outrigger and some in front. I have practiced both and I donīt really think it makes that big a difference, as long as I slide my legs in with my belly on the deck and then turn around. To me it is easier to do it climbing over the coaming (in front of the paddle) like in Matt`s manual. 7.- Climbing with the paddlefloat rescue technique in 25 knott (not mph) winds and 11 feet swell, is far too much for me. I admire Steve for that. Under my specific conditions of climate, boat stability, etc.. I teach Mattīs technique, and encourage people to try different varieties, keeping Mattīs as the basic. For myself, I preferred when missing rolls the paddlefloat reentry and roll, and the under coaming-outrigger arrangement for pumping, but... I am very respectful of all other approaches presented here, and would love to use Peteīs approach if I could get a hold of a foot pump or electric pump. Best Regards, Rafael el cayucochief www.mayanseas.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - Any opinions or suggestions expressed here are solely those of the writer(s). You must assume the entire responsibility for reliance upon them. All postings copyright the author. Submissions: PaddleWise_at_PaddleWise.net Subscriptions: PaddleWise-request_at_PaddleWise.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************Received on Mon Jul 28 2003 - 12:48:28 PDT
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